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jigal
01-13-2003, 04:42 PM
OK, after a bit of a fight with a hosting provider we finally figured all domain and hosting trouble out.

berger-blanc-suisse.nl (http://www.berger-blanc-suisse.nl)

Any comments are welcome!!!

Best regards, Jigal.
DCElliott
01-13-2003, 05:11 PM
Woof, woof, bow wow, arf, arf :D

Very, very crisp looking site. Absolutely LOVE the picture of the dog. I almost jumped back from my monitor.

An excellent example of a precise, tastefully done table based layout. (forum regulars will know I'm not in favor of table layouts, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate one that is well executed) The colors are harmonious and there is effective use of stylesheets which keeps the markup quite clean.

Depending on who will be maintaining the site, use of comments detailing the different sections might be helpful.

I won't quibble with the English but it does sound "translated" in spots. The only thing you should check is your title graphic. I believe proper English usage is "Come By" rather than "Come Bye," unless you were making a play on words.

Overall - two thumbs up:thumbup: :thumbup:
DarkSloth
01-13-2003, 05:19 PM
Wait... I remember that site. Did you make a topic before or am I just losing my mind??? Loved it, though.
ByteWizard
01-13-2003, 06:34 PM
I too love the dog. DC is correct... the English is a bit off. It could be

Nice of you to come, bye

OR

Nice of you to come by

Somehow I think you meant the second meaning. Ain't English wonderful. So easy to understand.
jigal
01-14-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by DCElliott
Very, very crisp looking site. Absolutely LOVE the picture of the dog. I almost jumped back from my monitor.
You should picture us making that photo... :-)
I sat down in the grass trying to keep the dog in the camera viewer, while my girlfriend threw a ball past my head. Sometimes I had to move away at the last moment to prevent the dog from running into the camera :-)
Depending on who will be maintaining the site, use of comments detailing the different sections might be helpful.
The pages are generated by the PHP script. Only the part with the white background actually exists as an HTML page.
The script strips off everything up to and including the <body> tag and everything from the </body> tag till the end before inserting it in the generated HTML.
Maintainance is very simple this way.
I won't quibble with the English but it does sound "translated" in spots.
Please do. We're not native English speakers, so we're left with our high school English :-)
We haven't found somebody who's willing to correct all the mistakes we must have made.
The only thing you should check is your title graphic. I believe proper English usage is "Come By" rather than "Come Bye," unless you were making a play on words.
It is a play on words actually. Before we had our first litter of White Shepherds (now Berger Blanc Suisse or White Swiss Shepherd Dog) we trained, worked and bred Border Collies.
"Come Bye" is a command that is used in herding (the dog moves clockwise around the flock of sheep). It is tradionally spelled this way in most parts of the UK.

To answer DarkSloth: yes, I made a topic before, but the day after posting it, the hosting provider went up in smoke. After that we had a bit of problems getting the domain transferred to another provider (it wasn't registered properly in our name :eek: ).
animgirl
01-14-2003, 11:40 AM
I love the site.
Totally.
I love the fading buttons.
I love the layout.
I love how cRiSpY cLeAn it presents itself.

yum.
DCElliott
01-14-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by jigal
"Come Bye" is a command that is used in herding (the dog moves clockwise around the flock of sheep). It is tradionally spelled this way in most parts of the UK.If that is the case, I think "bye" may actually mean "boy" in dialect. The herder is saying "come boy". (Remember the Scots speak English as a second language ;) )(Any Scots on the forum - please don't flame me - just a little friendly Commonwealth humour.)

Anyone else have an opinion on this back in the "old country"?
Geforc3
01-14-2003, 12:56 PM
Looks very nice that site no Comments!!!

en ga zo door he met mooie sites maken :D
ByteWizard
01-14-2003, 01:41 PM
Jigal...

I read through your great site and made a few notes. I am sure I did not find everything, but perhaps it will help. I read with saddness about your loss. My beloved Pepper (Cairn Terrier) is now 15. I do not wish to face the day when he must go...

I hope you can understand my notation. Any questions, just ask.

Page=contact
-Most browser (browsers) support a click...
-Use the form below...
Page=breed
-On December 18th 2002 the FCI finaly (finally)
-In contrary to general belief (Contrary to general belief)
-in a erroneous (undesirable) colour white. (colour is acceptable but color is more accurate)
-Famous are some Bergers Blanc Suisse. (Famous is a description of some Berger Blanc Suisse which have been important for the breed)
Page=descript
-The (They) have to be as dark as possible.
-The feet will meet eachother (each other) closely
-Dewclaws (I think this is 2 words Dew claws) appearing on the rear legs
-guidance dog and sledge (sled) dog.
Page="Breed standard" gives page not found
Page=history
-because through their colour (due to their color) they could be distinct (distinguished) from the wolves even at night.
Page=stamblizta
-told us half way May 2002 (told us in mid-May 2002)
-home because of a divorse. (divorce)
-fone calls (phone calls)
-From the moment ze (she) entered our home
Page=flyball
-The course consists of four obstacle (obstacles)
jigal
01-14-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by ByteWizard
I read through your great site and made a few notes. I am sure I did not find everything, but perhaps it will help.Thanks a million!! All fixed (except for "colour", simply because we decided to use UK English spelling ;) ).
I read with saddness about your loss. My beloved Pepper (Cairn Terrier) is now 15. I do not wish to face the day when he must go...We lost a couple of dogs over the years and it's always been a very tough moment.

Thanks again for all the corrections.
jigal
01-14-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by DCElliott
If that is the case, I think "bye" may actually mean "boy" in dialect. The herder is saying "come boy".Hmmm... They use "Come Bye" or "Go Bye" to have the dog run clockwise and "Kway Tae Me", "Way To Me", "Away To Me", "Away" or "Way" to let him run counterclockwise.
Other commands are quite logical however: "Lie Down", "Walk on", "Look back", "Stand". A bit stranger is "That'll Do" for "here" or "we're done".
Pretty funny folks them shepherds, aren't they?
ByteWizard
01-14-2003, 05:51 PM
Funny??? What do you call them when they wink at the sheep?