ASP harder than PHP?

[rubber30]

Is ASP much harder to learn than PHP?
What do you think?

[Josh]

I think it's easier,because you can use vbscript.

[Admin]

I heard VBscript is getting defunct soon thanks to Microsoft.Net :(

[Josh]

Yeah,but now we can use vb.net in asp.net.
It's much better than vbscript.:cool:

[Giz]

I prefer PHP myself harder to learn or not.

[MrMagooba]

Must say I prefere PHP. Dabbled in ASP with Access databases for one site, then decided to try PHP with MySQL and found the PHP scripting a lot easier.

[-TheDarkEye-]

vb sucks. microsoft couldnt create a good programming language if bg put ALL of his money into it.

php is definitly easier to use/learn. however, if that is all you are looking for in a language then i would suggest coldfusion.

[-TheDarkEye-]

i think the heavy use of english in vb makes it messy and hard to read. i have the same beef with pl/sql.

[-TheDarkEye-]

i agree with you on that.

in the first C class i took in university, i noticed quite a few people had trouble with the language basics throughout the term. however, once you do fammiliarize yourself with it, i think the power and versatility of the language becomes obvious right away.

[Josh]

Maybe c is better than vb,there still are many progrmmer uses vb,not only beginners.
But since you guys saying so,I think I'm gona work harder on c:p

[-TheDarkEye-]

if only all vb-itches where as easy to convince. :D :p

[Dynasty]

Since this wandered into the world of C and VB, while I agre C\C++ is better than VB, if you are just doing something small and simple that is windows based only, you can't really go wrong with a vb app. Of course for anything that needs to do a lot of things VB isn't any good at all.

However with the ASP and PHP thing, I also prefer PHP, mainly because it apart from being better in general (:p) it has a lot better error reporting system, since a lot of the time with ASP it shows a non descriptive HTTP 500 error, which helps no one (although when ASP does show what the error is, it does it darned well with arrows and everything which is nice!).

But yeah PHP is the better of the two, and also in my view harder to learn.

[Josh]

How about asp.net.I've heard that it's mush better to debug.
But I'm still gona learn php anyway:D

[Dynasty]

Can't say much from experiance about ASP.net because I haven't used it. However from being on the Windows .NET Server Beta newsgroups it certainly looks like having a lot more error info, as to if that is just a give out errors on some events and http 500's on others I don't know. :p

[EnwTheGood]

Wow, this thread has really deviated from its original intent...

Anyway, I mainly program in VC++, but I still haven't been able to spend an hour trying to learn MFC without wanting to put a gun to my head, so for simple stuff (i.e. batch file renames, event-based programs) I still use VB.

It saved me about four hours a few weeks ago:

I had all of my music files (mp3s and oggs for each song) in a complicated four-level directory structure. I wanted to move my oggs into a different directory, while keeping the same structure. With some help online and from friends, I was able to whip together a program that not only created an identical ogg version of my mp3s, but also could update the directory structure when I changed the mp3 one.

[BigTony]

I have to say that asp is much better that php. Honestly I could not understand half of php, while asp is simple! But that because I like VB better too. I never like C++ much.

Oh, and have you ever heard of ChiliSoft ASP? you don't need and MS server.

[Frank]

ChilliSoft is a horrible product...enough said about that.

I have used ASP.net and its really fast (since it compiles it and then runs the file without recompiling it once its called) but its a M$ product and try to find a server that a 18 year old could afford that has Ms SQL Server and asp.net...hah

I definatly perfer PHP over ASP because of the syntax ...

[drbarbu]

You can find hosting for .NET Framework with MS SQL Server at www.WebHost4Life.com/default.asp?refid=dragos . I am using it since last year and I had no downtime since then.

And it's only $140/year.

DragosB

[MikeParent]

Everybody knows that you can write ASP in JScript right? JScript being (basically) javascript...

[Josh]

Yeah,but most people use vbscript(it's called VB.net in ASP.net)to write ASP.

[MikeParent]

Originally posted by Josh
Yeah,but most people use vbscript(it's called VB.net in ASP.net)to write ASP.

I understand VBScript is much more common (thats what I use), but my point was I think its premature to discount ASP on the basis of VBScript, when there is another choice. In fact, a better choice if you are already used to writing Client-Side JS.