Does anyone like G.I.M.P.

[Flogg]

I notice that lot's of people on this site like using Paintshop and Photoshop, but does anyone else here use G.I.M.P. for doing there graphics. Even though most people I know hate it because it's non user friendly I find once you learn how to use it, you'll like it better than all the rest of the programs.

[cbkihong]

I do, as I primarily use Linux-based systems where you don't actually have better choices.

I think it looks quite similar to Photoshop.

Unfortunately I am poor with computer graphics. I only use it to refurbish some scanned photos, which is the utmost I can ever do with any Image Manipulation Program.

[BoR|S]

GNU Image Manipulation Program is the only normal way to work with graphics on Linux platforms, I aware of...

Also, if we talk about graphic manipulation software, there is a nice progie called Pixel32 (http://pixel32.box.sk) and it is available for both Windows, DOS and BeOS platforms...

[Ghandi Eximius]

As far as graphics software goes...you get what you pay for...keep that in mind

[Ghandi Eximius]

technically yes, but most people don't lean how to alter programs without spending a little money...

Someone pays for everything...

As for it being quality? Thats a different thing. A crumy peice of software is a crumy peice of software and the only way to improve upon it is to make an entirely different peice of software...

Look at Netscape, its been around for years, it keeps getting "improved" and for some reason it never ceases to exponencially suck...or Linux, its a great idea and open source, but it just isn't making enough developments fast enough to compete woth the leading alternatives...

thats just how I feel though...I could be way off

[-TheDarkEye-]

Your'e way off.

Netscape does not suck. In fact, if Microsoft hadn’t illegally ****ed them so badly, they would never have fallen behind. Fortunately, that is all in the past and Netscape is doing much better now.

Linux is actually doing quite well in the server/workstation market. I dont think it will be too long before we see a large portion of desktop users start switching over from Windows (I can speculate on a few reasons for this happening, if you like).

GIMP: I haven't actually used GIMP but I have read a lot about it. IMO, it is a great image editor but given a choice, i'd rather dish out for Photoshop.

[Ghandi Eximius]

I could argue back these alligations but it wouldn't do me any good. The truth is that we will never be able to solve the dispute between IE and Netscape, its as impossible to solve as the PC vs. Mac battle. So I could either post a rebuttel to reenforce myself or I could decide to extend a truce, and I pick the latter.

The last thing I want to do this week is start an e-feud with some people on a forum over something as stupid as browsers (opra kicks ass, but Im not sure its free)...it would be silly to turn into some forum rednecks fightin' like we shared a proporty line, so lets just agree to disagree.

:)

[Flogg]

The only reason that I choose IE over Netscape is because Netscape sux when it comes to creating a simple design. I find that microsoft handles things like CSS much better. I did a project for a class and Netscape couldn't read half of my code. Maybe if they could catch up instead of wasting there time on things that I never will use then I would support it.

P.S. AOL owns Netscape so I think they should support there own products like AIM.

[BoR|S]

Ever thought that it's because you don't use valid code?

[-TheDarkEye-]

flogg, you may not realize this but your problem is that you learned html and css the wrong way... the microsoft way.

next time you make a web page, make it work in ns/moz before you even look at it in another browser. this may take you some extra time at first but once you do this it will be easy to make your web pages work in ie, opera, ect...

[Dynasty]

Funny you should say that seeing as I have a page that validates as correct HTML 4.01 and correct CSS and it won't display on Netscape. :p

[Flogg]

Kinda funny how I used FP 2000 reference to learn CSS so I think I used the right way. And I learnt HTML the rightway also. I hate Microsoft things like there special HTML tags. I also learnt by using netscapes browser.

[BoR|S]

Originally posted by Dynasty
Funny you should say that seeing as I have a page that validates as correct HTML 4.01 and correct CSS and it won't display on Netscape. :p

Can I see this eigth wonder? :rolleyes:

[drak]

Psssst there is a win32 app for GIMP :D I use it all the time.
GIMP ME NOW!! (http://www.gimp.org/%7Etml/gimp/win32/downloads.html)

I use OpenVMS since thats what my employer here insists that I use here at work. And I use Gimp on OpenVMS there isn't anything much different in the win32 Gimp. It does load up a bit slower on a Windows plat form but what do you expect? I'm running winXP64 on the laptop and win2k on the home workstation. Linux on the other laptop. Blah blah blah...

I tried to use PSP6 but its to hard for me to use lol go figure, I think its because its too simple with a bunch of nonsense how to's and so forth. Or it maybe the fact I grew up with Unix instead of winblows.

[Flogg]

I use the win32 version too, my teacher in grade 11 showed us it and once I saw what it could do I said bye to all the other programs.

[Zero Angel]

Well, I've used the GIMP, and let me tell ya, Gimpin' ain't easy, if you want good image software Photoshop is the way to go.

Can I see this eigth wonder?
Yes, Its called "proper display of nested tables".

NS6 is slow, buggy, incompatible with older vid cards, and attempts to place "AOL" ads everywhere it can. It features an interface thats designed soley to look 1337, and you must register your browser or else you get nagged everytime you start it. Oh yeah, and the BLINK tag.

I prefer Mozilla myself.

[djwixx]

And back to the original question!!

YES.

[Prof. Snape]

i am using gimp for windows, too; of course it is a "bit" different from other grafx-programs, but: in my opinion it is FAR more useful than any micrografx or other prog. plus: it is free and has tools that i only knew from photoshop.
but as photoshop is far too expensive for my private use i prefer gimp and as i got used to this very nice prog i am using it instead of any others :)

[Phil]

After reading the posts in this thread I decided to give WinGIMP a try.
I've been playing with it now for about 4 days, and though I'm no graphics great, I really like it.
I was actually able to make some Transparent GIFs, relatively easily. I'm really looking forward to learning more about it.
It seems the few things I was doing with Photoshop are able to be done in GIMP.

[animgirl]

Yeah,

I guess it all depends on your app.
If you're looking to make gifs and things of the like, it doesn't really seem worth it to hash out the dough for photoshop for those few capabilites.
But, if you get into more intense graphic work, you'll find you get what you pay for.

[MikeParent]

Originally posted by dbindel
Netscape is much more W3C standards-compliant than MSIE.

That is totally false. On what do you base that statement? With IE6 I think things are more or less on an even keel.

...and the only reason its so widely used is because it comes installed on 100% of all desktop computers. If Microsoft suddenly decided to buy Netscape and use that as their default browser in the next version of Windows, I guarantee you that within two years of its release that Netscape would be the most popular browser.

Ah the tried true and trendy MS bashing... sadly also false.

While I agree that IE being preinstalled hasnt hurt its popularity, I think its hardly fair or accurate to say that its the only reason its so widely used. One must be careful making such broad sweeping statements.

Up until Netscape 7, Netscape pretty much sucked as far as rendering certain page elements (particularly tables - as flogg pointed out) and had unpredictable CSS positioning woes. It also still loads slower than IE. IE had cookie management first, XML support first, more fully-implemented CSS first, better email client (Outlook Express). You could argue that this may no longer be true, but the point is it was true at one point.

When IE first came out it sucked big time: Netscape was king, even when IE started coming pre-installed on machines, people still used netscape because it was a better browser. IE didnt gain any popularity until version 4.0 when it started to cease sucking... Netscape had some problems (not the least of which was Microsoft was giving away something Netscape was trying to get people to pay for), and their development cycle on Netscape pretty much ceased for a long time... long enough that when no new developments came, people increasingly turned to IE which was still coming out with new rev's.

IE is a good piece of software and its a little off the mark to say the only reason it is popular is it comes pre-installed.

[Flogg]

But, if you get into more intense graphic work, you'll find you get what you pay for.

Did you know if you really learn G.I.M.P. that it is more intense then Adobe? The only thing is it will take you around 2-3 years to learn it! That's because of all the more opions you have with it that the average user doesn't know about.

[Evilpoke]

Microsoft: All your valid syntax belong to us.

[Chewie]

I'm no uber-geek. Can't even get Mandrake 9.1 to work on my laptop. I'm still trying to figure out how to fit CSS and XML in with what I know about HTML 4. My first experience with graphics programs was trying to draw spaceships on an Amiga 1200 (with 8 mb of ram!). Then I got a copy of 1st page and started trying to learn html. The graphics for that has been psp8.
However, a couple of weeks ago my pirated psp8 crashed again, and I saw that there was a windows version of the Gimp, which I downloaded. I haven't actually tried it till today, as 'everyone knows' Linux/OSS stuff is really hard for non-geeks to use. Within minutes I had a scanned picture resized and cropped to fit the frame I wanted it in. I'd spent ages trying to do it in PSP8 (between crashes, the crack didn't work properly), and even resorted to trying to do it with Microshaft's picture it, which I got as part of the works suite that came with this computer. No joy.

I love the Gimp. This thing rocks. :-)

[PsychoticDude85]

yeah, gimp is cool, but photoshop is better, but without the cash for photoshop definately go for gimp it's a nice program

[Terminator1138]

GIMP is alright if you have the time to learn it...its improved more and more since older versions.

[Dubzero]

yeah gimp rocks

[lonebassist]

i use GIMP but only because i got no money for photoshop
why is developer software WAY over priced???
in a world of free expression there sure isn't anything "free" about it....

[Tarmithius]

Why would you dig up a thread that has not had a post in over 3 years? Thread locked