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Ganon of Evil
10-08-2002, 04:25 PM
The most important thing on how google ranks your page seems to be title. If you have a site about mario, do something like this:

<title>Mario site: Nintendo 64</title>

make sure Mario is part of the site title. Google is smart enough to figure it out and parse the title, so if someone types Mario 64, it will see "Mario" and "64" so it will give you better rankings :) Also make sure to use the words "Mario" and "64" on your site a couple times together and a couple times separate. A full page would look like this:

<html>
<head>
<title>Mario site: Nintendo 64</title>
</head>
<body>
Mario for the Nintendo 64 was released in 1996. Some people say it is the best Mario game to be released on the 64 .
</body>
</html>

See what I mean? Even without keywords, this page would still get decent rankings. One more thing google ranks on the is page name. if this is called mario_64.html, it will get better rankings. If its in the domain, youll probably get number one. Keywords are important too, and should be a short mix of the title and the page contents. Last is the description, which doesn't effect rankings very much but is used for the home page. The more specific the keywords you target are, the more hits for those keywords you will receive. Mario 64 would be a hard ranking to get and most likely a user isnt going to type Mario 64, so try to be specific. Finally, dont submit your site a bunch of times, it will only hurt your rankings. It usually takes 4-6 weeks to get listed, so be patient. Hope these tips help :)

Google submit page:
http://www.google.com/addurl

BTW dont waste your time with other search engines, the good ones are based on google. If you really need the hits, submit to the popular ones. One last note: STAY AWAY FROM FFAS!
3DPO
10-14-2002, 08:12 AM
Thanks Evil Dude, this answered a question we had about listing multiple pages from our website. Is this "lesson learned" from trial and error, gut instinct, or better yet from a measured test?

Looking for a way to run a simulation on a webpage for ranking its "searchability" on google. Any ideas of where to find something like this? Waiting 4-6 weeks seems a little prehistoric for feedback timeline in the fast pace world of a developer, 'ya think?

I have done some of those free webpage analysis wooptie-doos that rank your page for loadability and stuff, but I'm most concerned with getting hits, man!
scotttyz
10-25-2002, 04:03 PM
OOOO our beloved Googlebot!

To get good ranking at google (and no there are not any quick way to test results) I have found that you should... (in addition to previous posters)

1) Remember you are writing pages for the search engine as much as the person viewing the pages.

2) use good HTML, validate it at http://validator.w3.org/file-upload.html

3) don't use external javascript files for anything you want searched.

4) Install (understand what it is first) the google bar for IE, and get a good understanding of Page Rank

5) (after understanding pagerank and what PR0 is) find other pages that will link to you. VERY IMPORTANT!!

6) Use alt image tags

7) Use image links

8) google loves pdf files

9) keep the percentage of HTML to displayed text as far in favor of displayed text as possible

10) use hedding tags (with css if you want to change appearance)

11) Get listed in DMOZ.org

Don't get blacklisted!!! Google feeds AOL, Yahoo and Google searches (among others) you don't want to get hurt. What does this mean?? Don't try and cheat. (search google for the info, they post it freely)

PS Hint: If you use the google bar, don't worry much about subbmitting your site, they will crawl pages visited with the google bar installed (full instal). While they do not openly state that this is done, you do agree to let them phone home with URL's, I have heard of many examples of google finding webpages this way......
fred
12-09-2002, 08:04 PM
Some numbers....

google will display first 65 characters of Title tag, however it will pay attention to the first 70-75 characters.

First 25 words of your body copy is very very important, keep them close to Body tag and try to use external JS, CSS, in order to make your Title tag's keyword closer to your Body copy in order to gain more keyword proximity.
fred
12-09-2002, 10:49 PM
I mean for all the javascript function, for example preload image, rollover, etc etc and css, try to put them outside the page, for example :

search engine unfriendly


<title>search engine friendly page</title>
<script language="xx">
xxxxxx
xx
x
x
x
x
x
</script>
<style>
yyyyyy
yyyyyyyyyyyy
yyyyy
yy
yy
yy
yy
</style>
<body>
Search engine friendly page is very important to get high ranking....


search engine friendly


<title>search engine friendly page</title>
<script language="JavaScript" src="javascript.js">
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="style1.css">
<body>
Search engine friendly page is very important to get high ranking....
fred
12-10-2002, 01:08 AM
:D sorry about my broken english.

To google, keyword proximity is very important, so try to keep the 2 fields as close as possible (Title and Body).

DMOZ finally reviewed one of my site.... after 2 months of waiting.... but i havent see it listed yet :(
jessegut
03-13-2004, 10:22 AM
Can anyone suggest a free HTML validator?

I tried http://validator.w3.org/file-upload.html as posted ealier in this thread, but I get the "THe Page Cannot Be Dsiplayed" response.

Thanks
pascal
03-13-2004, 10:34 AM
Make sure you document begins like this:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">

<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Site</title>
</head>
azlatin2000
03-13-2004, 10:38 AM
You can also use html tidy.
jessegut
03-13-2004, 01:05 PM
Pascal,

What is difference between:

<META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-LANGUAGE" CONTENT="EN-US">

and

<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">


advantages ??
disadvantages??
jessegut
03-13-2004, 01:13 PM
azlatin2000,

I just downloaded tidy-exe.zip located at

http://htmltrim.sourceforge.net/tidy.html .

However, I have yet to find any instructions for its operation.

I upzipped the file it opened up a new "black" window with a flashing curser.

This may sound a little silly but, now what?

Thanks in advance.
azlatin2000
03-13-2004, 01:46 PM
http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/
http://lab.artlung.com/html/ancient-tidy-tutorial/

I use tidy from within first page or by commmand line
FST2005
02-24-2005, 09:33 AM
Hello,

First want to say this site is great. When I come across a site that is willing to lend some help and advice for other people, and ask for nothing in return, I quickly save it to my favorites. Great job and keep up the work.

My question is on having your site, validate at http://validator.w3.org/file-upload.html
I went there and entered in my url, it came back with a bunch of errors/problems. Even thu they explain what these errors are, I dont understand.

Could someone please give me a few sec of time and check my url at the site above? When you see the errors I'm talking about, please just try and explain a few...not all...I just need to understand what it means so I can try and fix this. My url is:
http://www.frontstreettrading.com

Last question, what does having your site validated do anyways?

Thanks for all the help,

Mike S