FirstPage 2006 Beta Bugs [Archive]

ANDREW_H

10-06-2005, 06:14 AM

Only been using the BETA for half an hour and I already love it.

Two issues I've found so far.... running on Windows XP Pro (SP2)

1. In Options > General Program Preferences > External Browsers, the clicking the Auto Search button finds no other browsers except IE, even though I've Netscape 8 and Firefox 1.0.7 installed.

2. After manually inserting the Browser names and paths to the EXE in the above dialog box, selecting File > Preview In Browser, selecting Netscape from the list opens the application but the file itself does not display in the browser.
:hellother

In FP2006 Pre-Release II, this is partially fixed. The function auto-detects IE and Firefox but not Netscape 8. However, this can be manually added if required and the dual IE/Mozilla preview more than makes up for this as netscape is built on the Mozilla engine.

Regarding the File -> Preview in Browser function not working correctly... it only fails to work in Netscape 8... but I suspect that this a netscape bug.

ANDREW_H

10-06-2005, 06:52 AM

The following occurs on WinXP Professional SP2 - 1GB RAM

1. Insert a piece of text in a new HTML document, for example "Hello World".
2. From the Font Tab, click the Font Tag Editor button.

Result... instead of the Font Tag Editor an Access Violation Error occurs as follows:-
Access violation at 0x0077D0B6 (tried to write to 0xE7841B1E), program terminated.

3. When you click the OK button in the error dialog, the program closes.

:order:

This is fixed in Pre-Release II version

EoinArmstrong

10-06-2005, 07:09 AM

Hi folks.

Congrats on the beta release - hope it works out well - looking very good so far. Just 2 minor gripes:

- It's a tiny bit slow to load, almost as if there is a delay written into the splashscreen code (no disk activity for about 5-10 sec). Just a minor quibble!

- Toggling between 'Source' and 'Design' and back again will re-format your own HTML code, compressing it - often losing carriage returns and whitespace etc. you originally inserted to make it easier to read. I'm sure this isn't a bug per se, but poeple probably need to be aware.

It's looking rather excellent so far!

Eoin.

EoinArmstrong

10-06-2005, 07:45 AM

The cursor text in the editor ('Source' screen) flicker whenever the mouse moves over the screen (I have the split screen turned off - don't want live preview)

bingo2

10-07-2005, 02:18 AM

The same flicker problem occurs when using the PgUp/PgDn key for scrolling. As if the document is reloaded constantly...
Nice work so far! I like it.
Ingo :love:

Allan

10-07-2005, 08:37 AM

Font button error
Error: Acess violationat 0x7c9377C9 (tried to write to 0x00030FC8). This is dealing with the font button.
LOL this program reminds me of just how little I know, but I am in love with 1st Page. will have to learn to use the new version.

Tyger

10-07-2005, 02:32 PM

When there is comment between ASP tags and you start the <% on line 10 and the %> on line 20, the coloring is not the same for each line
Try this:
<%
Dim Username ' For a username
Dim Password ' For a Password
Dim Address ' For an address
Dim Postal_Code ' For a postal code
Dim City ' For a City
%>

If you look at this in FP2006 then coloring is different for each line. He keeps the same color between the '-tags, but should stop at the end of the line. That is also where the comment stops being a comment.

Am I making any sence?

Thanks

Tyger

10-07-2005, 02:41 PM

Before: <td><input type="text" name="fPassword" size="9" maxlength="50" value="<% response.write rstsimple.fields("Password")) %>"></td>

Toggling between 'Source' and 'Design' and back again will re-format your own HTML code
After: <TD><INPUT maxLength=50 size=9 value="<% response.write(rstsimple.fields("name=fPassword % Password?))>"></TD>

The positive thing is that my '>' is replaced with a '>' witch is more correct.
The negative thing is: my code is completely messed up! :eyebrow: :smack:

Is there anything you guys can do about is?

Flying Dutchman

10-07-2005, 11:37 PM

Hi folks.

<q>

- It's a tiny bit slow to load, almost as if there is a delay written into the splashscreen code (no disk activity for about 5-10 sec). Just a minor quibble!

</q>

I agree on that; defragging helps somehow a bit but stil slow.

<q>

- Toggling between 'Source' and 'Design' and back again will re-format your own HTML code, compressing it - often losing carriage returns and whitespace etc. you originally inserted to make it easier to read. I'm sure this isn't a bug per se, but poeple probably need to be aware.

</q>

Got the same; consider this a bug, altough UNDO fixes the problem, but anyhow...

<q>
It's looking rather excellent so far!

</q>
Eoin.

Agreed!

Flying Dutchman

10-08-2005, 02:13 AM

During this beta testing process will the downloadable version of FP6 change accordingly or will there be an 'official' beta 0.1 release?

sdeliasr

10-08-2005, 07:13 AM

1. I noticed long start up time as well -- I clocked 20 secs., even if I close and reopen (which means the code should still be cached in memory). I have a 3.2ghz P4, 1gb RAM, SATA1 drive -- not hurting in the HW department.

2. I also noticed that the Project Manager does not save files into a project. I can create a project and reopen it, but whether I go through the Add Files dialog or the "Add Current Document" option, nothing gets added or saved.

Thanks,

Steve

Kevin Donovan

10-09-2005, 05:29 AM

I get the the following error when trying to use the font editor:

http://www.zwebusa.net/images/1stpageerror.jpg

The application then abends (Oh for you none mainframe guys that means "abnormally ends')
:hahaha:

bingo2

10-09-2005, 09:53 AM

It takes 20 sec to load on my computer (1.2 GHZ Athlon, 640 MB RAM), too. Seems, as if I saved myself some money in not upgrading the hardware ;-)

I'm missing the old style syntax highlighting, though. Or did I just overlook the switch for changing it?

marksmind

10-09-2005, 05:23 PM

Hi

First I must say that overall the program looks great and I love it already and am so pleased to see this beta come out.

However here are a few things I’ve come across in the limited time I’ve had to work with the new beta.

First here are some tags I’ve found that will not validate XHTML, and when I write my code I want it to be XHTML compliant.
The image tag does not include the trailing space and slash
<img src="images/pic.jpg" width="" height="" alt="" />.
The same applies for the line brake and horizontal rule tags.
<br />
<hr />
Also for the definition list button we don’t get the closing tag for <dt> or <dd>.

If the option could be added in the program to modify the tags that are inserted by the buttons the way you can in quick tags it would be nice.

Also there seems to be a problem with the project manager if I am using it correctly. I cannot seem to add either documents or files to a project after I create one.

Also having to do with the image inserter and the way it inserts the full image address rather than the relative address could be a problem.

Could you put an option in to make it possible to edit the extended characters list.
Also could you make it possible to allow the color picker to float rather than have it anchored to the tool bar. It would also be nice to add an eyedropper tool if possible.

Thank you for the great program,
Mark

patchwolf

10-09-2005, 06:13 PM

When using the "Replace in Files" option (Search > Replace in Files): changes made to open files are not reflected in the editor.

Additionally, the application seems to use a MASSIVE amount on virtual memory. I've needed to restart my machine twice since the install. For reference, I'm using:

Windows XP Professional
Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz
512 MB of Ram, and a 1536 MB swap file.

Flying Dutchman

10-10-2005, 12:21 PM

I fully agree that presenting the full image adres (e.g. d:/homepage_local/pictures/betty_boop.jpg) is not that much useful to say it mildly.

Default relative adressing (e.g. ./pictures/betty_boop.jpg) seems imho a better way :-)

lucdix

10-10-2005, 12:34 PM

Daybreak_0

10-12-2005, 05:25 AM

I am gettng some strange output with the split screen. The preview Below in split screen is all screwed up. I notice that AI-RTVS Rendering Engine 1.011.112 is being used for the split screen.

I use CSS extensively, and it appears to me that the split preview screen is incorrectly interpreting the CSS. I tried testing the problem, but could not entirely get to the bottom of it. I do use tableless design as much as possble, and it does appear that the floats are causing the problem.

When I hit the preview button all appears correctly for MSIE, and I also know it renders correctly in Mozilla.

Regards
Day

Edited ****

Further testing has shown CSS ignored to include
a) Negative Margins
b) display: none

Daybreak_0

10-12-2005, 06:03 AM

DE or Terminator

You may want to split this thread up into different types of categories

HTML
ASP
PHP
CSS
etc.

I realise i can never be perfect, but it may help sort it all out.

PHPbugs sounds good

Regards
Day

jon

10-12-2005, 01:16 PM

If I set the menus to "Hardcore" and then start typing in Design mode, keystrokes bring up menus as if the Alt key were down. This does not seem to happen if the menus are in some other mode when the program starts up, but once it occurs, switching back to Easy menus doesn't fix it. It appears that sometimes the problem also occurs in Source mode, but I couldn't get this to happen every time.

Anything entered in Design mode gets tags entered in upper case, regardless of how this option is set from the Options menu. Also, this option needs a checkmark or something to show its current state.

I agree that the start-up time is absurd--almost as long as Photoshop, notorious for its painful start-up. Load all those plug-ins and stuff on demand, not at start-up.

Also agree that one should be able to switch back and forth between Source and Design without necessarily getting CRs removed, etc. Should be a settable option or just leave text as entered unless a compression tool is used.

Not a bug, but a disappointment: although I would do most of my work in Source mode as always, it'd be handy to have a functional Design mode for when you need to whip out a quick, temporary page. However, changing a color, size, etc. in Design mode still puts in antiquated font tags, etc., rather than CSS. Yuck. (Could also be an option, in case someone *wants* antiquated tags!)

Quick display of the page in a designated external browser helps, but I would like to be able to choose Gecko as the internal preview rendering engine (or even better, to switch between the two). IE as the default and only rendering agent seems silly today, even though we do need to be able to see how a page will look in bad browsers.

Help is not very helpful; very minimal and can't be searched?

CSS options seem helpful if you're writing a style sheet from scratch, but shouldn't it be able to import all the styles already in a document or its linked style sheet? If there's a way to do this, I can't see it. Also wondering why PHP tags are included but no way to render PHP (or integrate with external PHP)?

I have to say that after the long wait, I was hoping for the kind of lean, clean, ahead-of-the-curve functionality that we saw with 1st Page 2000. What we have seems more like a follower than a leader.

ANDREW_H

10-13-2005, 05:51 AM

I have found what I believe to be a bug in the process of creating a CSS. Here is how to repro:-

1. Create a new HTML document from the HTML 4.01 Transitional Template.
2. In the menu bar click Insert and select Cascading Style Sheets from the resulting menu, and then select Style Sheet Designer.
3. In the name box input a name for the style, such as .FirstPara
4. Leave the type selected as "Make Custom Style" and then select "Output stylesheet to file...
5. When the save dialog box appears give the stylesheet a name and click Save.
6. In the "Type" area, input Arial as the font and select 10points as the size.
7. Click on the "Box" selection and in this select "Justify" for the Text Align.
8. Below this, input 5 in the Text Indent box, select "in" in the dropdown box to the right of this, and then alter the 5 in the Text Indent box to 0.5
9. Click okay and this will save the information to the CSS file.

Incorrect Behaviour:-
1. When you browse to the location of the CSS via Windows Explorer and open it in notepad you will note that the "in" measurement has not been added to 0.5 for the Text Indent.

2. If you subsequently go back into FirstPage 2006 and repeat the steps above but use a different style name in Step 3 and allow it to be saved to your original CSS file, the new style over-writes any style already present in the file. In other words... the new style is not appended to the CSS file.

The workaround for this is to either use FP2006 to create a CSS from the Startup Manager or use Topstyle Lite 3.1 for creating and editing CSS.

Daybreak_0

10-13-2005, 06:25 AM

I have found what I believe to be a bug in the process of creating a CSS. Here is how to repro:-

1. Create a new HTML document from the HTML 4.01 Transitional Template.
2. In the menu bar click Insert and select Cascading Style Sheets from the resulting menu, and then select Style Sheet Designer.
3. In the name box input a name for the style, such as .FirstPara
4. Leave the type selected as "Make Custom Style" and then select "Output stylesheet to file...
5. When the save dialog box appears give the stylesheet a name and click Save.
6. In the "Type" area, input Arial as the font and select 10points as the size.
7. Click on the "Box" selection and in this select "Justify" for the Text Align.
8. Below this, input 5 in the Text Indent box, select "in" in the dropdown box to the right of this, and then alter the 5 in the Text Indent box to 0.5
9. Click okay and this will save the information to the CSS file.

Incorrect Behaviour:-
1. When you browse to the location of the CSS via Windows Explorer and open it in notepad you will note that the "in" measurement has not been added to 0.5 for the Text Indent.

2. If you subsequently go back into FirstPage 2006 and repeat the steps above but use a different style name in Step 3 and allow it to be saved to your original CSS file, the new style over-writes any style already present in the file. In other words... the new style is not appended to the CSS file.

Confirmed

The designer does not like the 0.5, and only likes whole numbers. If 0.5 is used then the inches or pixels are greyed out and do not make it to the stylesheet.

Confirmed
New styles will overwrite any style already put down. It is irrelevant if you have already linked the sheet or not.

Regards
Day

Saint

10-14-2005, 07:52 AM

Getting the same error as others have mentioned,

Steps to produce error,

Select the text you wish to font tag, click on Font Tag icon and bingo, your error:

Error: Access violation at 0x7C937927 (tried to write to 0x00030FFC), program terminated.

So far, love what I see, keep up the good work.

cwabby

10-16-2005, 03:35 PM

just had a little play with the beta and must admit i am very pleased with the new additions and delighted to see that the 2006 version still retains all the bits i loved from the 2000 version

however i have notice a bug in the wysiwyg
when i type the letter "g" it doesn't insert the letter but instead gives me a drop down menu to insert an image ... can get over it by switching back to source but that sorta defeats the point of using a wysiwyg ( all other letters are created correctly)

only played with it for a few minutes but gotta say a big thumbs up to the coders cos when you have ironed out all the bugs this will be a premium product for all occational web developers and possibly even the commercial boys :rolleyes:

Admin

10-16-2005, 04:34 PM

I appreciate all the feedback, comments and bug reports. Although I may not reply to some of your posts, do understand that I read every thread and we note down all bug issues and feedback ideas which we will hopefully implement.

Thanks once again!

JimmyNeutron

10-16-2005, 08:04 PM

I downloaded the Beta 2006 and tried to use it. I opened a file that I had created using 1st Page 2000 and I received the following error:

Command Failed: WYSIWYG_Editor.SyncDOC
Error message: KSDhtmlEdit Error: $00FE57

JimmyNeutron

10-16-2005, 08:19 PM

Upon startup of 1st Page 2006, my cpu usage spikes to about 97%. This spike seems to vary from several minutes to way longer.

ANDREW_H

10-17-2005, 05:58 AM

Hi there,

Have found this problem with the list element. Have same issue with FirstPage 2000 and now it is probably time to fix it. To Repro:-

1. Input four lines of text pressing RETURN after each line.
2. Select all four lines and from the LIST tab click the List Item Button.

Result:- This places a start <li> tag on the first line of text and a closing </li> on the last line. I believe that this is incorrect behaviour and causes the text to appear as follows in the internal and external browser:-
This is line number 1 This is line number 2 This is line number 3 This is line number 4

The routine should be intelligent enough to place an opening <li> and closing </li> tag on each line... enclosing the text that appears on each line. It should look like this in the editor:-
<li>This is line number 1</li>
<li>This is line number 2</li>
<li>This is line number 3</li>
<li>This is line number 4</li>

which would be correctly rendered in the Internal and external browser as this:-
This is line number 1
This is line number 2
This is line number 3
This is line number 4

davews

10-18-2005, 10:50 AM

davews

10-18-2005, 12:25 PM

When you run Tidy HTML it puts the error results in a small window entitled 'Instant File Viewer'. The text in this window is truncated so you cannot read the complete lines. Not sure if this was a problem with 1stPage 2000 as well, hopefully this can be cured for the final.

Update: If I manually widen the window by clicking on its RHS I can get it to display the full text properly (and it even remembers that width after I exist). But it is probably still a bug in that it doesn't wrap the text when the window is too narrow.

Nightrider

10-19-2005, 04:09 AM

I received the following right at the end of the install:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/978/screenshot5217qi.jpg

If I ignore the error and let it finish, I receive this error when I try to launch FP2006:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2782/screenshot5226xc.jpg

Here are my PC Stats W2K SP3
AMD 2800+
1 GB RAM
200 GB HDD

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6694/munky27rr.gif

wrighty

10-20-2005, 12:50 AM

Hi
Firstly, great job guys. I've been waiting a long time to see this. Just a couple of minor blips. There always appears to be 2 instances of 1stpage.exe running.

Popup syntax prompt appears, but does not disappear when another window is selected outside of 1stpage. You need to click on the editor window to remove the popup before seleecting another window. Can be a pain if you are previewing in another window as I do.

Hopefully the screen shots below will explain.

First is in 1stpage.

http://www.whoopee-do.com/images/snap1.jpg

Popup Still shows when I have selected the forum.

http://www.whoopee-do.com/images/snap2.jpg

Trezore

10-20-2005, 02:48 PM

Hello,

When in Preview, I changed the Preview Resolution to 1024 x 768 pixels and it worked fine. But then as soon as I stretch or resize the First Page 2006 window the setting for the preview resolution defaults back to "Fit to Client window". This can get to being frustrating. The older version 1st Page 2000 did not have this issue. Also, it does not matter which resolution is selected, as soon as the window is resized or stretched, the preview reverts to "Fit"

Hope this could be resolved.

Christian D.

Trezore

10-21-2005, 09:01 AM

When going to Open a file, noticing this setting where Favorites is, is not being saved. I have to keep adding the directories I am working with and fliping back and forth between back into it each time I restart the application. Would be nicer if there was a nice place to edit the Favorites to save and keep what was entered or remove an entry not used any longer.

Christian D.

Trezore

10-21-2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by EoinArmstrong
Hi folks.

<q>

- It's a tiny bit slow to load, almost as if there is a delay written into the splashscreen code (no disk activity for about 5-10 sec). Just a minor quibble!

</q>

I agree on that; defragging helps somehow a bit but stil slow.

<q>

- Toggling between 'Source' and 'Design' and back again will re-format your own HTML code, compressing it - often losing carriage returns and whitespace etc. you originally inserted to make it easier to read. I'm sure this isn't a bug per se, but poeple probably need to be aware.

</q>

Got the same; consider this a bug, altough UNDO fixes the problem, but anyhow...

<q>
It's looking rather excellent so far!

</q>
Eoin.

Agreed!

The reformating happened to me as well, but when I hit the undo button, it erased everything and left me staring at a blank white edit screen. Redo did not put anything back either. I had to close and select "Do not save changes". When I opened the file again, everything was as it was before the reformat.

I would say that is a major glitch and can risk someone losing all their code. Which I am sure no one likes to redo from scratch.

Christian D.

Trezore

10-21-2005, 12:34 PM

Trezore

10-21-2005, 01:05 PM

Now in a perpetual freezing mode where no matter how long I wait to click to display another page to edit, it will freeze on me.

I.E.
I open my first page to edit using reopen. Then I use reopen to open second page. As soon as I click to edit the first page I opened (after waiting for about 5 to 10 seconds) it will freeze.
BTW - I am able to right click on the taskbar and close it that way when its frozen.
ok.. I open again in reverse order the two pages I want to edit so that I do not have to click back to the first page I opened to edit. I edit the page and save. Then test the change that was made and all is fine. I then go to click the first page I opened so I can edit it and guess what.... yep... the application is frozen.

Can hardly wait to find all the other little quirks in this application :)

Once I start using an application I generally will find the minor bugs that can be annoying in the long run.

Christian D.

Freerider

10-22-2005, 02:12 PM

Using FP2006 with win98 and think it's great. The only problem I have found (so far) is the projects don't work. I can add files to it but they don't display in the window.

Also, when I click on the Preview tab for an HTML file, it shows the preview correctly, but if I click on a .css file, it also shows the preview. This may not sound like a bug, but who wants to see a preview of a .css file? We need to view the code.

Great program though...

DanThMan

10-23-2005, 09:19 AM

It totally wiped out my entire page!
I had four documents open, didn't change any of them and had to shut down in a hurry!
Tried to close it down but it frooze, later it started to ask me if wanted to keep the changes
in one of the documents. I answered yes, but it kept asking me anyway.
Suddenly it closed and I ran away for a couple of hours, came back and fired it up again and
......garbage, just 8-10 lines with pure garbage...
Not so happy right now desperately digging for a copy somewhere that even may not exist!
I will not do any serious coding on this beta without lots of backups :shoot:

frzndaqiri

10-26-2005, 06:16 PM

First, I am so happy to have my hands on this program! It rocks, and I hate to consider going back to 2000 when this expires. =)

To add to the bug list:
Also experienced the HTML reformat when switching to and from design view.
Unable to preview in Firefox.
Exception error when using font tag editor.
Random odd freezing occurrances with the program (no particular trigger for it, just a sudden "Access violation", and the program terminates).
Using Tag/Alignment/Center places a Div Center tag instead.
I find if I close all the documents, and they were left in preview view, I only have Open Project or Exit in the File menu.

TCG

11-01-2005, 05:52 PM

The new FP2006 has many fine features and was well worth waiting for.

I have found one possible bug in editing some web pages which consists of a possible memory leak. I discovered that my my available memory was gone after about one hour of miscellaneous editing. Monitoring free ram more carefully, I could see that it slowly diminished as I worked. Closing the pages would not return the ram, but closing FP2006 did.

I hope this is some help.

TCG

Trezore

11-03-2005, 12:48 PM

Ok... back to note another annoying (maybe minor, but major for me) occurance.

When editing an ASP page, the comment quote really throws off the color formating of the text. Everything flip flops back and forth to the point that the code between the beginning and end is lost in confusion of colors.

The Annoying Solution:
Where ever there is a single quote like ( I'm or don't ) in a commented section, need to place two single quotes ( I''m or don''t )

At the beginning of each line that is commented out with a single quote ( ' ), need to place a single quote ( ' ) at the end of the line as well. Otherwise the color format flips/swaps/switches until the next single quote ( ' ) is used.

Other option is be sure not to use words in the comments section that have single quotes.

Reading and editing a long page of code can become very tedious now with this annoyance. 1st Page 2000 editing preferences worked great! Changing something that was not broken ended up breaking.

Christian D.

Admin

11-04-2005, 01:29 AM

It seems that some of the bugs some of you are facing here is the cause of the software protection system we used to wrap 1stpage.exe. This system is used to prevent reverse engineering and is used to expire the beta. We're currently looking into why its causing these wierd bugs and we're also working to fix all the bugs everyone is reporting on these forums.

Thank you for taking your time time out to help make First Page 2006 bug free. :)

ANDREW_H

11-04-2005, 05:41 AM

The features section of the website states that FirstPage 2006 has support for CSS Auto Detection as follows:-

"CSS Class Support & Auto Detection
First Page automatically detects CSS class styles in documents so you can create CSS pages easier than ever before."

The image accompanying the feature shows a CSS style being selected from a dropdown box to be added to the <Body class=""> tag. However, this does not work.

I created a CSS style and allowed FirstPage 2006 to inside it into a style block within the <HEAD> tag of my html file. I then created a piece of text, enclosed it within <p></p> tags and changed the opening <p> tag to read <p class="">. I placed the cursor between the double quotes but nothing happened... no dropdown appeared containing the style I had created.

Am I missing something here or is this a bug. If it is... it would be absolutely brilliant to have this working as it is a feature I have longed for in my favourite HTML Editor.

Trezore

11-04-2005, 08:27 AM

With the expiration date declared for Dec 1st, would there be a follow up of another beta to see if the fixes were fixed and or broke something else?

Thanks,
Christian D.

PS: was not sure where to post and ask this question.

Ruprecht

11-07-2005, 03:10 AM

First of all.... it's great, in any respect!!!

Opening one of my files I dedected, that a tag in comments may fool the coloring:
The foll. simplified doc shows everything in brown after the comment tag ended:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Untitled</title>
</head>

<body>

<h3>any text</h3>
</body>
</html>

It seems to be a small detail; by the way, the yellow background in comments was very useful. Consider keeping it??

Best regards and wishes!!

ruth

11-07-2005, 05:05 AM

Hi,

It's because you have <style> in there. It seems the tag is over-riding the comment colors selected. As to the yellow, you can set what you want. Go to Options/Editing Preferences, click the Highlighting tab and choose Comments from the list at the top left. At the right middle make sure that background is unchecked which allows you to choose the color you want.

Ruth

ruth

11-07-2005, 05:15 AM

The backspace, and all arrows on the keypad are inoperable. I tried a basic page in all modes, tried a blank page, tried one of my own pages. It's really frustrating. If you make a typo you have to stop, take the mouse, highlight the letter and cut or use the del key, which does work. They worked in Insert/Comment pop up box.

Ruth

ANDREW_H

11-07-2005, 06:45 AM

Another issue I have found which seems to be a bug. Repro as follows:-

1. From the Insert Menu select Image Map.
2. Click the Wizard button.
3. In step one of the wizard, select the default Create a new map and click Next.
4. Browse to an image file that you know is on your hard disk and select it.
5. Give the image map a name in the appropriate box and click next.
6. In the third step of the wizard click Finish.
7. Select Rectangle from the Image Mapper toolbar and holding down your left mouse button... drag an outline shape on the image. When you release the mouse button, type a filename in the appropriate place on the resulting dialog box.
8. Now, scroll down the code in the bottom half of the dialog and you will note that the filename you typed does not appear in between the double quotes following the href= entry and in fact does not appear until you select another area of the image using either the rectangle, circle or polygon button from the toolbar.

This appears to be incorrect behaviour as the filename should be entered into the code when you click OK in the area properties dialog.

This is not too big of an issue... and the simple workaround is to insert another rectangular map area and then delete it; remembering to remove the redundant code it produces.

Anemone

11-07-2005, 11:19 AM

I used the image mapper wizard to re-open and existing file. When I was done moving the anchor shapes, I wanted to save under another name. Unfortunately, when I clicked on "Save as", 1stPage 2006 froze completely. I let it ponder for several minutes, but eventually had to Ctrl-Alt-Del out of there.

In addition, the image mapper doesn't seem to recognize the anchor shapes' locations quite like my other mapping tools, MapThis! and PaintShop Pro 7. Every shape is shifted a bit to the lower right-hand.

ruth

11-07-2005, 07:44 PM

I reported a bug earlier that my arrow, backspace and delete keys are inoperable with 2006 installed, that got applied to my 2000 also. Checking things that I can set to do with the program I found that the problem is in the parser. If any but webpage is checked the keys work fine, but if the Webpage is the one checked on the parser options the keys do not function.

Ruth

marksmind

11-07-2005, 10:14 PM

I don't know if it's meant to be this way or it is a bug? But it seems like a bug.
After setting some bookmarks at a few line-numbers in my document I closed the document.
Upon reopening it I expected the bookmarks to still be there - but they were gone - oh my.

Any way it would sure be handy if those bookmark would stick around.
Mark :cool:

Levi

11-10-2005, 08:15 AM

Oh that's annoying.. i just typed up 9 bugs, and when i clicked post, it said i wasn't signed in and lost it all. let's hope i can remember them... these all occurred within 2 hours...

1) in source editor, select text, click and drag selected text. it doesn't erase the system caret as you drag ( | ) instead it leaves many copies of it all over :)

2) i managed to freeze the entire program while just typing in the source editor. i was editing a tag, inside id="blah|blah" and it froze. it did seem to save the last character i typed after it froze. (i did a ctrl+s with hope)

3) when i use the design view to edit anything, it reformats my code.. :( not really a bug, but a feature request.

4) the full screen buttons act as though they are the show/hide sidebar button.. doesn't work so well to have 2 independent push buttons for the same thing

5) is the intellisense supposed to work? it shows up at random with a drop down of random ideas, many of which are random characters, not html. it only started doing this after an hour or so. also, CTRL+SPACE or CTRL+SHIFT+SPACE seems to be standard (at least for the stuff i use) to drop down the intelligent autocomplete menu.. would be nice

6) select some text, hit CTRL+SPACE to replace it with a non-breaking space and it inserts it without deleting the selected text as i expected it would.

7) i get this error message when i select the design view from source view..

MSHTML Editor: Error
Command failed:

WYSIWYG_Editor.SyncDOC

KSDhtmlEdit Error: $00FE57

8) in the source pane (perhaps others?) on mouse move.. redraws the entire pane.. text flickers a little sometimes, the system caret flickers a lot. just a little annoying.

9) CTRL+S doesn' t always save.. after i click the source button (to switch from preview to source code) i have to then click inside the text area before CTRL+S works. i find this to be rather annoying as i'm a compulsive CTRL-S'er

there are about 2 others i can't recall... perhaps i'll find them later. one last thing, this is actually a feature request.. it'd be nice if you could manage a design/source split view, similar to dreamweaver. i find this view the most effective when i'm in a hurry.

a second feature request would be in the preview pane, or design pane, when the ruler is on, it would be nice to have little markers on each ruler showing the position of the mouse, as well as a status bar update with the exact position in pixels.

I'm sure i'll be back with more. thanks for listening, that's what makes software good! please respond if you are able so i know my reports aren't for not.

Levi Lansing
Systems Developer
Westcare Health System

Anemone

11-11-2005, 10:17 AM

When I try to set up a project in the new "Projects" sidebar tab, my files never appear in the list (though the project itself does). At least one other beta tester reports the same problem, in message #80 of the Evrsoft First Page 2006 Beta Preview thread (http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4262&page=4&pp=20).

Anemone

11-11-2005, 04:04 PM

1stPage 2006 has been repeatedly and unexpectedly crashing on me (say maybe every hour today). I got the following error message last time (didn't manage to capture it on previous crashes):

Error: Access violation at 0x7C8024E5 (tried to write to 0x09A50EBC), program terminated.

I've been trying to figure out what causes it, and I think it's when I try to scroll up in the code area.

Addendum:

This also seems to happen when I "paint" text to select it (to insert a tag). This time, I got:

Error: Access violation at 0x7C8024E5 (tried to write to 0x09A50EBC), program terminated.

Second Addendum:
OK, I give up on why this is happening. It just seems to happen randomly a few times a day and is not linked to anything I can figure out for sure. Since I'm paranoid about saving, I haven't lost much work, but it's obnoxious. I'm running on Windows XP Pro at the office and Windows 2000 Pro at home, and the same thing keeps happening every hour or two.

MasterSlowPoke

11-15-2005, 10:50 AM

If you delete a file while it is open, 1st Page 2k6 becomes inoperable.

Spock

11-21-2005, 09:06 PM

I added 1stPage 2006 to my Send To folder so I could send files to it to edit like I do with other programs. It seems to accept programs this way but when 1stPage 2006 finally opens it is empty.

It appears the only way to edit an existing program is to select it after 1stPage 2006 is up and running.

Speaking of which ...

When I start 1stPage 2006, I get the Beta Reminder window. OK, I can understand that, it is, after all, a Beta.

Then, after clicking on the OK button, I get a series of "Windows - No Disk" error windows contining the error message, "There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive."

I have to click on the "Continue" button 6 times before the edit window finally opens. http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/images/smilies/M0QV9LDF.GIF

I do have 3 Removable Disk ports for different sized camera media such as Compact Flash and Memory Sticks but nothing else has ever complained about them being empty before. I also have an empty external floppy disk drive but that only makes 4 "empty" devices, not 6. They are listed as follows:

3½ Floppy (A: )
Removable Disk (D: )
Sony MemoryStick - MG(F: )
Removable Disk (G: )

Anyone have any ideas why I keep getting this problem?

dirko

11-22-2005, 09:54 AM

:hehe: 1stPage 2006 has been repeatedly and unexpectedly crashing on me (say maybe every hour today). I got the following error message last time (didn't manage to capture it on previous crashes):

Error: Access violation at 0x7C8024E5 (tried to write to 0x09A50EBC), program terminated.

I've been trying to figure out what causes it, and I think it's when I try to scroll up in the code area.

Addendum:

This also seems to happen when I "paint" text to select it (to insert a tag). This time, I got:

Error: Access violation at 0x7C8024E5 (tried to write to 0x09A50EBC), program terminated.

Same goes for me, as soon as i touch the edit text/fontface button.
several times a day, and cannot figure out why...
Dirko
Hungary :verymad:

Pointi

11-27-2005, 07:13 AM

Hello, I am living in Austria and using 1stPage2000 since years. I ´m happy to be able to test now the Beta release of 1stPage2006 and enjoy the extended possibilities already now.
One Problem: I used the option "Image mapping" and when trying to close the file, 1stPage did not work any longer. Even the "three-finger-reset" did not work.

Best regards from the "other side of the world" to "down under"

Peter

Gideon

11-30-2005, 06:14 AM

I get the the following error when trying to use the font editor:

http://www.zwebusa.net/images/1stpageerror.jpg

Me to. But I get a few hours editing before it happens. Then the whole computer locks up. :smack:

Eqrepro

12-02-2005, 06:45 PM

Great program as ever for the most part! (I've been using 2000 for ever!). There are a couple of issues I've encountered in the beta test. Some of these may have been reported elsewhere, for which I apologise!

Running Windows XP Home, SP2.

I look forward to the next beta version - am depressed I no longer have access to this version!!! :(

Any word on when/if/how another version is going to be available?

Thanks!

-----------------------------------------
Bugs encountered:
-----------------------------------------
New template window does not close after template inserted.

Use of "design" pane results in consolidation of HTML and loss of order. This cannot be reversed by the "undo" command. When closing after attempting "undo" visual pane editor closes too, even if there is another document open. :grrrr:

Dragging and dropping an image from the explorer pane results in loss of height and width measurements (height="0" width="0").

Program crashed following attempted insertion of <u> to highlighted text.

Trezore

12-21-2005, 07:10 AM

Something I forgot to mention during the beta testing...

In FP2000 when you would move the cursor down or up to the next line, the cursor would also return to the same position. For those that do not understand what I am saying....

Say you are editing the following lines of code:

1.12345678901234567890
2.1234567890
3.12345678901234567890
4.
5.12345678901234567890
6.1234567890
7.12345678901234567890
8.12345678901234567890
9.12345678901234567890

In FP2000, if you placed the cursor at the end of line 1 and then pressed the down arrow key to move to the next line, you will be at the end of line 2. Then if you hit the down arrow again to get to line 3 you would be at the end of it because it is the same position from the left as line 1 where it started.

Say you started at the second number 8 on line 1 and then hit the down arrow 2 times. You would then be at the second number 8 on line 3. And if you hit the down arrow 5 times, you would be at the second 8 on line 5.

FP2006 did not work like this which made it very annoying to edit quickly from line to line.
If you placed the cursor at the second 8 on line 1 and then hit the down arrow key 5 times, you would be at the beginning of line 5 because line 4 was blank. Or if you hit the down key 3 times, you would be at the second 1 on line 3 because line 2 ends there.

For a person like me that likes to quickly change code from line to line for tweaking purposes and be back at the same position when moving the cursor from line to line, this is a very valuable ability. I really got used to it in FP2000 and when I got to FP2006 and it was not there... I was very frustrated!.... It's like going from the gateway 124 anykey keyboard which had the 9 directional arrow keys to the plain and standard 4 direction arrow keys.

Anyhow... I would hope that ability does migrate from FP2000 to FP2006 and that it was just overlooked and not be in beta.

Christian D.

GDS

01-02-2006, 02:55 PM

Have found this problem with the list element. Have same issue with FirstPage 2000 and now it is probably time to fix it. To Repro:-

1. Input four lines of text pressing RETURN after each line.
2. Select all four lines and from the LIST tab click the List Item Button.

Result:- This places a start <li> tag on the first line of text and a closing </li> on the last line. I believe that this is incorrect behaviour and causes the text to appear as follows in the internal and external browser:-
This is line number 1 This is line number 2 This is line number 3 This is line number 4

The routine should be intelligent enough to place an opening <li> and closing </li> tag on each line... enclosing the text that appears on each line. It should look like this in the editor:-
<li>This is line number 1</li>
<li>This is line number 2</li>
<li>This is line number 3</li>
<li>This is line number 4</li>

I disagree, because it is often the webdesigners intention to make list elements that goes over several textlines. (For instance when makeing nested lists.) There is no way a program like this can understand your intentions. In this case, it is better to keep it simple.

I know that WYSIWYG editors like Outlook Express, treats list-elements in this manner, but I do feel that behavior like this is quite contrary to what made 1st Page 2000 so popular.

GDS

GDS

01-10-2006, 05:42 PM

Ihave just downloadet FP2006 PR2, and have a comment on the color higlighting settings: I do miss the javacript highlighting settings from 1stPage 2000.

As I love the flexibility of the color highlight settings in 1st Page 2000, I would like to see this be continued in 1st Page 2006. Will these be Implemented again?

GDS

Joeby

01-10-2006, 08:03 PM

Admin

01-10-2006, 08:38 PM

I got the following error when trying to install FP2006. I tried to re-install and got the same error.

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KsDHTMLEDLib.ocx
Unable to register the DLL\OCX: DllRegisterServer failed; code 0x80004004.

Any suggestions???????

Just ignore/skip this. If you had a previous version of FP 2006 beta installed, it is just saying that it cannot register the OCX as its already been registered on a previous attempt.

This is now fixed so these errors are supressed in the updated setup exe.

GDS

01-11-2006, 02:34 AM

I got this error message after inserting style-element in head
and the going to Design-Mode:

-----------------------
Command failed:
WYSIWIG_Editor.SyncDOC

Error mesage:

KSDhtmlEditError:00FE57
-----------------------

Trezore

01-11-2006, 09:28 AM

Is there a fix to take care of removing the splashscreen?
It does not go away after launching First Page 2006.

I have Windows XP Pro system.
Pentium 4 CPU 2.4GHz
1.00 GB of RAM

Please let me know any or all other information you need to know from me to help fix this.

******Edited********
Ok... well I managed to do something I should have added...

I went into Options, General Program Preferences..., Startup, and uncheck the box for "Show Splash screen on program load" :) No more problem with Splash Screen.

Still would like to know if the splash screen would be something need fixing.

Thank you,
Christian D.

qtstorm

01-11-2006, 11:59 AM

This is more of a performance problem than a bug. Once the program is open ( Which is markedly improved from the original beta by the way), I open a blank document and start typing. The code editor response is incredibly slow. It takes about three seconds or more for the code I am typing to appear. It seems like the program is processing quite a bit in the background for the tag insight and others. This happens even with the preview window closed.

I'll admit, the computer I'm working with is not a speed horse, but I would hope that simple code editing would be smooth and relatively fast. I use other editors on the sysem.

System Specs/ Setup:

OS: Windows XP SP2
Processor: PIII 733Mhz
RAM: 512Mb

Evrsoft Setup: Advanced/Expert Mode

Flying Dutchman

01-11-2006, 12:00 PM

After installing prebeta2 it opened first time.

When I exited and started it again it seems to open normally, but at the end it closes itself.

This process repeats itself, so now I cannot open it anymore.

Any suggestions?

ruth

01-12-2006, 05:35 AM

Splash screen freezes [or at least never finishes] at the Loading Code Tree screen. I can check it off in the preferences and use 1st Page, but I cannot get any side bars. I do not know if the two issues are related.

Ruth

Trezore

01-12-2006, 07:47 AM

When going to Options and clicking on Reset Layout & Toolbar Settings, the Reminder window comes up. The same Reminder window which comes up at the initial launching of the application.

Then when you click OK. The Reset Layout window blinks into view then disappears (disappears to behind the main window LOL) After a few times playing though, it stopped disappearing to behind and stays on top. wacky! wacky!

Anywho... I found it odd the Reminder window would appear.

Also, I thought I recalled the Mode/View would be saved so that each time you went back in to the application, you had the mode you were last in. But the Easy, Advanced/Expert, Hardcore modes do not stay and I have to go to Options each time to set the mode again.
Is that what it is supposed to do? and if so, is there a way to have the shortcut use an argument/parm to have it open in the mode desired? Like 1st Page 2000 did.

Target: "C:\Program Files\Evrsoft\1st Page 2000\1stPage.exe" EXPERT

If I do that for 2006, I get a Open window for opening a file with the PARM/ARG I entered (in this case "EXPERT")
File name: EXPERT
Files of type: HTML file (*.htm/*.html)

Trezore

01-12-2006, 08:01 AM

WOO HOO!!! I LOVE IT!!! The latest download fixed the cursor movements. :)

This makes my editing life so much easier now... THANK YOU.... THANK YOU... :crazy: :love: :weee:

EDITED 1/31/2006:
:verymad: :verymad: Somehow the cursor movements have reverted!!! and no longer follow suite respectively from line to line as FP2000 did. :grrrr: :grrrr:

Breccia

01-12-2006, 12:14 PM

Trezore

01-12-2006, 01:48 PM

Hi all:

The new program is a winner but has a couple of small problems. (I come from a Homesite mindset). System P4 W2K SP4 Raid 768Meg.

1. <Search/ Replace in Files> does not replace in files from same directory that are open.

2. In left-side explorer (files list) pane, I was able to drag the <Modified date> header to beside the <file name> header. Problem was, the data below didn't follow but stayed in its original place.

3. In PREVIEW mode, double-clicking on a file name opens a tab for the file but does not display the image from that file. One needs to click on another file then the desired one in order to see it. No problem encountered when in SOURCE listing mode.

And a want item -- it would be nice to have, as part of the explorer listing, a column for page TITLE!

Thanks again for a super program. :weee:

In regards to number 2:

When I drag the Date Modified heading over to be next to the Name heading, the dates moved over fine to being in the column next to the Name column, but the headings are now as follows with the data under it.

Before Dragging: date to be next to name
Heading: .....Name.....|............Size...........|............Type...........|.....Date Modified.....
Data.....:.....Name.....|............Size...........|............Type...........|.....Date Modified.....

After Dragging: date to be next to name
Heading:.....Name.....|............Type...........|.....Date Modified.....|.....Size.....
Data.....:.....Name.....|.....Date Modified.....|............Size............|.....Type.....

Note my system info in signature.

Trezore

01-12-2006, 02:21 PM

Trezore

01-12-2006, 02:32 PM

PsychoticDude85

01-12-2006, 02:38 PM

I appreciate that you are trying to help, and I don't mean to dissuade you from helping the debug efforts, but wouldn't editing the original post have been better than three?

Trezore

01-12-2006, 02:58 PM

Another issue I did not notice being noted is how the application freezes. I would have about 4 to 6 or so pages opened and after flipping just a couple times from one to another, the application (First Page 2006) just plain freezes up. Does not give the "Not Responding" message either. But if you take another window and drag it across the First Page 2006 window, you get that funky snapshot array in the area where First Page is.

Why is it freezing? I double checked and it will freeze when selecting back and forth on the tabs to display the page you wish to edit. I had only two pages up and it froze. If I take time to switch from one to the other and/or not click right away to go back to previous tab... it does not seem to freeze. But there was a occurance where I came back to my PC and it was frozen too. I did not do anything and it froze as if timed out.

Christian D.

Well... two things are different this time around in regards to what was noted previously.
The "Not Responding" message now appears on the titlebar.
That funky snapshot array you get when dragging another window over does not occur.

But the freezing still occurs when switching from one file page being edited to another file page being edited when selecting on the Tabs at the top for the files open for editing.

Trezore

01-12-2006, 03:08 PM

I appreciate that you are trying to help, and I don't mean to dissuade you from helping the debug efforts, but wouldn't editing the original post have been better than three?

Depends how it's look at....

I suppose, but I was not sure if a post that gets re-edited would get looked at again.

Since I am already done following up on what I posted before, I'll do the re-editing of my follow-up posts to the original post moving forward. Unless it is desired I clean up my latest follow-ups and insert them into the original.

If admin has time to let me know... I'll comply.

Thanks,

PsychoticDude85

01-12-2006, 03:19 PM

Don't worry about the past, either the Mods will feel moved to do it or they wont ;).

You don't have to worry about editted posts per se, the final say comes from Admin, and he has been reading these threads diligently recently. There is a lot of respect to be gathered from that, and I think while I agree it does seem like it would be neater for addressing different points and such it is usually better to edit than repost (bumping in old topics where there is a great need to do so is different, it's just a matter of learning about forum ettiquette). It is true some forums do not bother you about double posts, others are adamantly against them, so on the whole I find it safer to keep them to a minimum.

Hope to see you around the forums some more and thanks for your input to the beta project, it is good to see someone actually visiting the forum :).

ANDREW_H

01-13-2006, 05:44 AM

First of all, I'd like to start off this bug report by saying that in my opinion FP2006 Final Preview is one hell of a killer app and for FREE. It has everything I need in one place... Scripts, Image Mapper, Scrollbar Designer, Tag Inspector, CSS Properties Inspector, Dual Edit Pop-up Source Window... I could go on and on... but I won't. ADMIN... many thanks for all of your hard work and time devoted to this product and us... it's users.

Now... I have one niggle to report and I'm wondering if it is a bug or simply a fact of life. In FP2000 I really loved the split edit/realtime preview option... and the realtime preview accuratly rendered how the page would look in the browser. In FP2006, the Anti-Intrusive Real-Time Visual Source Renderer does not render with the same accuracy and I find myself forced to switch to preview mode in order to see the page correctly rendered as it will look in the browser.

I guess that I could live with this but the split screen edit/preview window is a feature that I really like. Before FP2006 Free is classed as "Final" could some investigation be done into making the Anti-Intrusive Real-Time Visual Source Renderer be more accurate in rendering the page or could the user be given the option of using a split screen edit/preview with the option of using the IE or Mozilla preview in split screen mode?

Even if there was a workaround... I would be happy with this. :)

marksmind

01-14-2006, 05:17 AM

As an added feature it would be great if you could use folders in the project manager to help keep things organized.

rbtnt

01-16-2006, 08:58 PM

I have been using FP2000 for years and thought it was great until I downloaded FP2006. I was able to fix an Explorer problem by reloading FP2006 yesterday. The Explorer pane on the left of the screen was not being saved until I reloaded yesterday.

In FP2000, I was able to save a file while in edit or preview mode. In FP2006, I can not save a file in the preview mode. Is this a bug or design intent?

Thanks

coolbaroo

01-23-2006, 04:29 AM

Major bug problem (I Think). My HTML document gets saved however 1st Page thinks it's always modified I had to close the program and these messages came up.

Exception EAcessViolation in Module ntdll.dll at 00018FEA.
Access violation at address 7C918FEA in module 'ntdll.dll'. Write of address 00000070.

Pressed OK
Then

Access violation at address 004430E4 in module '1stpage.exe'. Write of address 0000004B.

Then

Access violation at address 004430E4 in module '1stpage.exe'. Write of address 0000004B.

Also It runs so slow on Win XP, and I have all programs shut except 1st Page 06.

musicman2059

01-24-2006, 01:13 PM

Only just a couple of things: I'm not sure if these have been reported yet.

1. FP2006 occasionally faults when being closed. (Probably already been reported)
2. Project manager doesn't like PHP files. (Been acklowledged already, apparantley)
3. PHP files created and saved in FP2006 produce mysterious parse errors. (Been thuroughly tested by my to ensure that this was 2006)

FuzzieDice

01-25-2006, 09:13 AM

I also noticed the color syntax highlighting doesn't always work right.

Trezore

01-25-2006, 11:35 AM

I also noticed the color syntax highlighting doesn't always work right.

Are you refering to when you use a tick mark to comment out a line and the code after is changed in color as if commented out too?

That's an easy but annoying thing to fix. Have to place a tick at the end of the Commented area as well!... I was hoping that would be fixed before the final version. But if it can be fixed afterwards, that would be great! Looking through all the ASP pages gets frustrating enough without having to watch for correct tick placement to know what code is valid or unvalid.

Azurai

02-07-2006, 04:28 AM

If you switch to design mode, you will find that you can type every letter of the alphabet except for g.

Azurai

02-07-2006, 04:33 AM

If you insert a multi-row/column table in design mode, when highlight more than one cell and right-click, you lose you highlighting. Highlights are maintained with right-clickingonly only when one cell is highlighted.

kaedee

02-21-2006, 06:20 PM

hello all!
I can't tell you how excited I am to have discovered First Page!. I have tried so many editors and my preference is Dreamweaver, but...... I am so excited about First Page! I have just started a group in teaching html and am adamant that confidence comes through seeing what your achieving. Once I opened First Page I quickly discovered the WYSWYG interface was a waste of time. Flipping back to editor I found that little button down the bottom. YAY I can see what I am doing!!!! BUT....... the bugs...... I could really do with these bugs out of this program. I wish to recommend this program 100% to my students! I get popups all the time like what islisted in the forums AND the program runs really slow. .I type very fast and have to stop and wait for the text to catch me up. Yes, I am using XP. Any hints help or ideas?

Trezore

02-22-2006, 06:50 AM

Hi kaedee,

Try looking at the following thread to see how it helps you...

http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4566

Also check here for more elaboration of what is said

http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23815#post23815

Spock

02-22-2006, 11:19 AM

Posted this elsewhere but now I find this topic, so thought perhaps it should be added here to help keep everything together ...

I just discovered that the active scripts in most of my program code do not run after being edited in 1st page 2006.

They are really simple, benign scripts such as:

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">

</script>

I have found the only way to get them to work again is to edit the files using 1st Page 2000 and re-upload the file to the host! http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/images/smilies/M0QV9LDF.GIF

Has anyone else seen the same or a similar problem? If so, is there a solution?

Guess I will continue to use 1st Page 2000 a while longer, especially as there seems to be no way to get 1st Page 2006 as a paid option ...

The above is a new problem that showed up after I uninstalled FP2006, wiped all the information from the registry I could find, emptied my temp folders, and reinstalled FP2006 using a new download.

After hearing about the "Save-As" problem, I'm not sure I want to use FP2006 any more until it is actually stable. :(

I have been corresponding with Galactic via PM but do not think such communication best serves the forum, so will continue any further such discussion in the forum proper where it belongs. Thanks for your prompt response and help Galactic, I just feel our conversations will help more people if they are out in the open.

Galactic

02-22-2006, 03:06 PM

I have been corresponding with Galactic via PM but do not think such communication best serves the forum, so will continue any further such discussion in the forum proper where it belongs. Thanks for your prompt response and help Galactic, I just feel our conversations will help more people if they are out in the open. [emphasis added]
IThe paragraph above was originally at the end of Spock's message..

Spock, I will follow your lead on this. I like your posts; I just reviewed your recent ones. Your experience with 1st Page is greater than mine. My biggest reason for going “off-line” was that I had too many threads and information posts that were just hanging there with no responders. I edited and put one back up today on the virtual disappearance of the Pro version of 1st Page from the Evrsoft page.

Posted this elsewhere but now I find this topic, so thought perhaps it should be added here to help keep everything together ...
Spock, if you add a link in your original post to your post just quoted by edit, I think it will be helpful to readers of that post..

I had missed 2 or 3 of your recent posts. In one you were responding in detail to something that I had suggested. I regret not reading and responding to that post.

The above is a new problem that showed up after I uninstalled FP2006, wiped all the information from the registry I could find, emptied my temp folders, and reinstalled FP2006 using a new download.
Spock, it sounds like you were following suggestions of mine, or similar to mine as are given in earlier forum posts, things that predated our recent PM exchange. I regret that the procedure caused something new to surface although I cannot imagine why, unless, you in fact wound up with a newer version of the 1st Page program, and the newer one has introduced a new issue. Did the reload help with any of the other things that were happening to you?

Why are the scripts not working? The three possibilities seem to be that the code is being written wrong, saved wrong, or uploaded wrong from 1st Page 2006. As the code is largely what you are putting in there, I do not think it is being written wrong. First Page 2006 may be replacing a certain combination of characters by a special character. This may happen when the code is saved. It might not happen if the code is copied and pasted to a text editor, for example. The FTP feature of 1st Page 2006 could be faulty and sending the file incorrectly. Again, certain combinations of characters may be being replaced by a special character. I think that html and similar files are supposed to be written in simple HTML and the special characters in there can keep code from working.

Have you seen the difference in the code as output from 1st Page 2006 and as output from 1st Page 2000? If you take code written in 1st Page 2000 and send it up using 1st Page 2006, does it work? If you bring the code back from the server is it different then what you sent up to it? I am inferring that 1st Page has an FTP feature / function. I have not gotten that far with it yet. If it does not, I misunderstood something that I read in your posts.

The steps that I suggest/offer to remove and reinstall 1st Page 2006 are intended to address such bugs as program crashes when closed. I would not expect them to have an effect on the kind of problem that you are reporting here. Just loading and configuring a program differently before using it is not going to correct program actions that as developed produce an incorrect result in edited code.

After hearing about the "Save-As" problem, I'm not sure I want to use FP2006 any more until it is actually stable. :(
I must have under appreciated the importance of the “save as problem”. It is not due to instability. it is a failure of the application to check for existing files and asking if one means to overwrite it. Evrsoft has not been responding to bug and feature issues since before February. That leaves a presumption that nothing is being down to correct the issues. If FP 2000 works fine for you, I can understand returning to it until FP 2006 gets a little more work. Others seem to have done the same thing. If another is wondering how to get 1st Page 2000, I recall that there is a post that provides sites that it can be downloaded from.

FYI: To find out more about Spock, look at his post in the “After Hours” forum. if you have a question on the “Pro Version”, getting 1st Page to not crash when closed, Splash Screen hangs when program starts, slow editing, finding out if 1st Page 2006 free is a fully functional program (it is intended to be), and where Evrsoft help/support is (Evrsoft help/support does not seem to be available at this time), there are recent posts and threads that deal with these things. Why script code written using 1st Page 2006 may not work remains an open question.

I posted more suggestions for new folks here (http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?p=24080#post24080) I am going to add the steps for a clean remove and install of 1st Page 2006 to that post by edit.

Spock

02-22-2006, 05:59 PM

Ref: http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4594

The above referenced topic is reproduced in its entirity in this topic, so should probably be locked (or even deleted!) by a Mod to discourage anyone from posting to it instead of this topic.

The procedure I went through was when I was originally having problems with FP2K6. I could not get the window to resize, so made a post => HERE <= (http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4587). The reinstall solved that problem but I found my new problem shortly after.

If you need to find anyones previous posts, simply click on their username and select, "Find all posts by <Username>".

I have compared the text files from both FP2K and FP2K6 and they appear identical.

I use WS_FTP Pro to upload and download, so do not use FP's built in utility.

My background includes what was supposed to be a BSEE which turned into a BECS and a MSCS. I had 11 years experience as an Aviation Electronics Technician before I got my first degree. I have worked with computer software and hardware since about 1974 (1965 if you count my training experience with discrete component logic building blocks). I have not only run testing procedures, I have written them.

Galactic

02-22-2006, 06:15 PM

I have compared the text files from both FP2K and FP2K6 and they appear identical.

Spock, I would have added this remark by edit to my post above, but you have already replied to it. A new post is required for you to see this. Thank you for all the other comments in your post above.

How can two identical files behave differently. Perhaps there is a non ascii character in one of the files that does not display in a text editor but which makes a difference to the server. ? Could 1st Page is translating a combination of characters and showing it as a special character in the first file, but the combination of characters has actually been replaced by the special character in the second file? That could display the same but the files could be different.

Do you have any upper case letters, spaces or other thing different in the file name in the two cases? As we know, the file name can kill a file as quick as a content error.

There has to be some kind of difference in the two files, does there not?

Spock, I callyour attention to this (http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=23849#poststop) post. I am wondering if this solution that axel seems to have found for his problem relates to some of these other strange occurences. What do you think?

Spock

02-22-2006, 09:02 PM

I could try changing the encoding but there are not two different files. I found the problem when I loaded in a file, index.htm, that had been created using FP2000. I made a minor change, looked over the file and saw no visible changes other than the one I had just made, and saved it using FP2006.

After saving the file, I uploaded it to my host using WS_FTP ... the scripts did not work.

I took the file just saved with FP2006 and loaded it into FP2000, typed a space and a back-space, saved the file with FP2000, uploaded the "new" version, and the scripts now worked.

I suppose the next step is to save the working copy as one name, make the "change" with FP2006 and save the file as a different name for comparison purposes.

Too bad there is no minor version number so we all know which version we are working with. :rolleyes:

PatriciaRits

02-26-2006, 07:46 PM

I have a problem with FP2006 changing files upon change as well. I noticed when a file containing javascript stopped working after a small change I made. After uploading again, the page produced an error.

When I looked at the source code from within my browser I noticed the HTML was condensed and all the lines were gone. FP2006 placed the entire page in one line when I saved the file...

I checked with several other files since.

The weird thing is that the file looks fine in FP2006 itself. So it seems to be changed back when you open it. ??!!

Galactic

02-27-2006, 12:35 AM

I have a problem with FP2006 changing files upon change as well.[snip] The weird thing is that the file looks fine in FP2006 itself. So it seems to be changed back when you open it. ??!!

Greetings, Patricia, welcome to the forums. :)

Check the procedure given in this post:
http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=24122#post24122

Put the meta-tag in your html code by following the procedure. There are other reports of 1st Page not writing files properly. Some of them are in the thread of the linked post. You can also just copy and paste the meta code line from the post into the header section of your html file. (That had not occurred to me before. :) ) This should make it quick and easy to check if this works. You can use a text editor and do this before you even open the file in 1st Page.

You can also see if you copy the code (rather than saving it) to a text editor and then saving it using the text edtitor, I believe Wordpad is known to work, if the saved file is OK. That is not a very satisfying "workaround" but it serves to confirm that it is a file saving error you have run into. As you report, it does seem to be this kind of problem.Adding the meta-tag may enable you to save the file in 1st Page without a file writing error.

Try it and let us know if it worked, or not.