Evrsoft First Page 2006 Final PR2. OUT NOW!

[Admin]

Hello Everyone,

First Page 2006 FINAL is here. You can grab it from the downloads page at http://www.evrsoft.com/download.shtml

This version has various bug fixes/feature additions. Some are explained below:

1. AutoTIDY HTML on Design view. You can also load your own custom TidyHTML profiles for use with the Design View. WYSIWYG code has never looked better. :eyebrow:

2. SPEED!
The new update loads about 3x faster than previous versions. You'll also notice speed improvements when typing, moving your mouse, etc.

3. Removed flicking.

4. CodeTree now supports all PHP5 functions, HTML 4.0, and the CSS2 tag specification.

5. Project Manager now saves/opens correctly.

6. Autoreplace/code templates get saved. Now you can type words such as (c) and get it automatically replaced to © when typing. You can also press Ctrl-J to show a list of pre-made templates defined by yourself.

7. fixed hardcore toolbar underline char bug

8. Added full xhtml support (tags). If a document is XHTML, FP will add < /> tags accordingly.

9. fixed sidebar_file_combobox popupmenu/shortcut keys and improved intelligence

10. Ability to enable/disable design tab/view.

11. Alerts users before switching to design mode. Option to switch off alert box.

12. Improved tag insight, tag selector and inspector speed and bugs.

13. Tag inspector with HTML and CSS attributes are now moved to the top with a blue highlighting color for easier viewing/development.

14. Hitting Ctrl-Space now shows Tag Insight. No longer do you have to "wait".

15. Detailed Windows CHM Helpfile now available.

16. Over 1,500 (No longer 450) iScripts are now available from within the program. iScripts are simply Javascript/DHTML/ASP scripts that can be deployed instantly. iScript is really just an interface to these scripts, allowing you to browse and preview scripts from within the program before the script is added to your web pages.

17. Online Photo Album maker bugs fixed. I believe it is one of the few off-line thumbnail generating tools available that can make some pretty nice thumbnails, with Previous/next thumb links. Give it a whirl. ;)

18. Dual edit window now includes "find toolbar" for power developers who need Dual screens. :rolleyes:

19. Design view - table selection is now set to act like MS Frontpage/Word/Dreamweaver. That means table editing has gotten a WHOLE lot easier. :)

20. External browser search now finds Firefox and Mozilla.

21. Many text/combobox fields now have history enabled. This means you can close the program down, come back and it remembers previously used URLs defined, etc. Also, many options now remember itself, so after re-open it will be preserved.

22. mycode/explorer rename/delete works fine now.

23. Ability to select entire tag block via shortcut key.

There is a lot of other "bug fixes" which really do not require a mention. :)

FYI, First Page 2006 will remain free, however there will be a professional edition available. Upgrading to the pro edition means you'll get priority support and removal of a simple nag screen. We have thought long and hard about this and we have concluded that this is the only approach to continue FP. We need to pay our starving programmers, hosting fees, maintaince fees and so forth if we can deliver you updates and quality support.

If there is enough support out there you can be assured updates and work on FP will progress MUCH MUCH faster than previously.

Thanks to everyone who has sent back feeedback and may you have a wonderful 2006!

Please report all bugs, feedback and ideas here.

NOTE: Un-install any previous betas before installing this new version.

Note: The latest update was posted 12/JAN/2006 @ 1.12PM AEST.
If you downloaded a preview release, you may want to come back and download the final version. The final version include some additional tweaks and functionality. :hellother

[PsychoticDude85]

Wow, you have done loads of work Admin, congratulations on getting all that done!
http://www.dpent.ca/Images/16571.jpg

[Flying Dutchman]

Can't wait!!!

[Tarmithius]

Well I have to say that the list you provide for all the fixes/features is impressive. I am looking forward to trying it.

[Rabscutle]

Unfortunately when I click on the Downloads Page link, I get a Page Not Found Error. Is there a mirror site for this download?

[Tarmithius]

Because the file is not there, mostly likely it has not been uploaded yet.

[Admin]

try again now, 2 mirrors are up. :)

[Tarmithius]

Not sure if this is where you want the bugs posted but here goes.

To start off the splash screen does not go away, it stays at the 'Loading Code Tree' section and stays there, I can start a new document though underneath the splash pane. I have attached a screenshot of this.

[wjcampbe]

Just found the same thing, but went into preferences and unticked the splash screen option - problem solved.

Very impressed with the first few page views - interesting warning on WYSIWYG design view. I will leave exploring the meaning behind that till tomorrow.

Thanks Admin. A real boost in productivity is guaranteed (just the interest of finding out what I can do) :-)
Bill

[Tarmithius]

I also turned off the splash screen in the options area, but fora lot of newbie type folks they may not know what to do about this issue.

[Terminator1138]

yeh thesplash screen did the same for me also

[Admin]

For those who have the splashscreen bug, please try replacing your copy with this updated one.
http://www.evrsoft.com/fp2006-beta/1stpage.exe

Let me know if that fixed the issue or not. A few more bugs have also been patched since.

[davews]

For those who have the splashscreen bug, please try replacing your copy with this updated one.
http://www.evrsoft.com/fp2006-beta/1stpage.exe

Let me know if that fixed the issue or not. A few more bugs have also been patched since.

With this version I cannot even install it on Windows 98SE, it crashes with the splash screen 'Loading' and GPFs:

"C:\MISC\1STPAGE.EXE 3.0.0.0 caused exception C0000025 at address BFF88054 (Base: 400000)

Registers:
EAX=014EE57C EBX=014EF588 ECX=014EE548 EDX=BFFC9490 ESI=819526AC
EDI=014EE6CC EBP=014EE5E8 ESP=014EE570 EIP=BFF88054 FLAGS=00000202
CS=0177 DS=017F SS=017F ES=017F FS=0F0F GS=0000"

I have the full crash log with memory dump if you are interested (130kb zipped)

Not a good start...

[WimJ]

Wow!

CONGRATULATIONS!

It seems that my major problem (flickering of the source-screen while typing in data) has disappeared to the level of FP 2000. Wonderful! I'm happy!

Wim Janse :hellother

[GDS]

Some Design-mode comments:
First, I would say that I think Design-mode have become very useful.
I like the way in which List-elements can be nested by using indent/outdent!


I do have some remarks on the functionality of Design-mode:

-I would prefer that Design-mode do not use the deprecated font tag. If font-property is changed for a partial selction, I would prefer to have
a span element inserted with appropriate style. If a whole element is selected, it is better to insert style in this parent-element.

-Why not enable user to insert css in the tags directly, by reuseing the same advanced propertyInspector as in sourceMode! Then, you could decide how to insert style and other attributes in elements. This could be implemented so that when in designMode, the propertyInspector always works on the element textMark is placed inside,for instance body.

GDS

[Admin]

With this version I cannot even install it on Windows 98SE, it crashes with the splash screen 'Loading' and GPFs:

"C:\MISC\1STPAGE.EXE 3.0.0.0 caused exception C0000025 at address BFF88054 (Base: 400000)

Registers:
EAX=014EE57C EBX=014EF588 ECX=014EE548 EDX=BFFC9490 ESI=819526AC
EDI=014EE6CC EBP=014EE5E8 ESP=014EE570 EIP=BFF88054 FLAGS=00000202
CS=0177 DS=017F SS=017F ES=017F FS=0F0F GS=0000"

I have the full crash log with memory dump if you are interested (130kb zipped)

Not a good start...


I'm assuming you already installed the full FP installer first before using this? The above file is just for those who want to replace over their existsing copy of First Page 2006.

[Admin]

-I would prefer that Design-mode do not use the deprecated font tag. If font-property is changed for a partial selction, I would prefer to have
a span element inserted with appropriate style. If a whole element is selected, it is better to insert style in this parent-element.
GDS

Easy to fix..

Go into TidyHTML.. Setup your own profile, select "upgrade my document to CSS". It is an option available in Tidy, then save your profile.

Now go to options -> Program Preferences -> Design View tab.

Goto AutoTIDY group, select "Choose my own tidy profile". Then select your tidy profile.

Now eevrytime you switch back and forth, all <font> tags will be converted to CSS span tags.

[davews]

I'm assuming you already installed the full FP installer first before using this? The above file is just for those who want to replace over their existsing copy of First Page 2006.

Ah, yes. Perhaps I didn't read and downloaded in haste... Now downloaded and installed the full installer and it is working fine.

The first test page I tried happened tp use a javascript alert "window.alert("yes")" which popped up an alert window. But when I went into preview mode I found I couldn't get out of it as it was just looking for me to click the OK button....

Dave

[suffolkboy]

For those who have the splashscreen bug, please try replacing your copy with this updated one.
http://www.evrsoft.com/fp2006-beta/1stpage.exe

Let me know if that fixed the issue or not. A few more bugs have also been patched since.


I downloaded and replaced the exe file with updated file, sadly this did not fix the problem.

I had to click File, New Blank Document before I could access Options. Then I could get to General Program Preferences and turn off the splash screen.

[Admin]

Those having issues with splashscreen bug, please post your windows version. Also, when you goto CodeTree can you see these tag libraries available?

CSS 2 Specs
PHP 5
HTML 4 Specs
?

Thanks

[Tarmithius]

I downloaded the the program install again on my pc, the one I had the problem with was on my wife's laptop. I installed it on my PC and the one here at work and the issue is not present.

My wife's laptop is running Windows XP Home versus Windows XP Pro and Win2k for my personal and work machines.

What the settings are on the laptop I cannot say at the moment since I do not have access to it but I think the only difference is the version of Windows.

[GDS]

Easy to fix..

Go into TidyHTML.. Setup your own profile, select "upgrade my document to CSS". It is an option available in Tidy, then save your profile.

Now go to options -> Program Preferences -> Design View tab.

Goto AutoTIDY group, select "Choose my own tidy profile". Then select your tidy profile.

Now evrytime you switch back and forth, all <font> tags will be converted to CSS span tags.


Sorry, but this does not work well. After repeated editings, you will end up with a mess of style and span elements.

I do understand that this is a bit demanding of me, but I think the Design-mode ought to be redesigned with a different approach to this problem, and that the result will be worth it.

As it is now, you will end up with a WYSIWYG generator that is as messy as all others such. I think that you by using a different approach, might end up with someting far better.

I am thinking of the possibility to reuse the integrated propertyInspector also in Design-mode, and leave out the font-tag approach completely.

GDS

[Admin]

It is very much possible, however the design view is something we're not really focusing on right now. We need to see the demand there for design view, then we can really start work on it. Right now it seems many want to disable this view. :-/

[Terminator1138]

To Admin, I would not give up on design view..so many look for it that really don't know about coding. Even though this is what should be done, many novice ppl that want simple pages and really just to make changes would really find this feature a real asset to the future of First page.

If focus was on it more I think you would take a lot away form other design stuidos that have yet to do this type of feature and give adobe a run in them market. Just my two pennies worth

I'm finding the advanced features a real benefit right now and so far nice improvements have been made to the system. I can really see a huge improvement so far. I'm not sure what the link to dreamtemplates is yet and i noticed the ads so is there a pro version that gives access to these then? Anyway a nice implementation and add on to encompass a lot.

Like I stated, design view would be a real asset to keep up with. I will say more later...for rightnow testing beta 2 more.

[RobFriedman]

back to the splash Screen bug..
mirror 1 had the bug mirror 3 did not.. (yes I cold go in and turn it of with the options..
but mirror 3 went to the startup manager and the splash went away on it's own

[Jelmer]

Hi,

I just started using your software after having used Homesite for as long as I can remember but I was getting fed up with the fact that it was dated and the filetree was among my top 10 annoyances for the last year. I like First Page a lot but I got two small problems with it, one is the speed but it's not slow enough to be annoying just noticable.

The second one, isn't really a problem but it gets in the way of a habit of mine: That when I close down the last open document the whole screen goes gray and I have to dubble-click for a new document. Why not directly open a new document without that screen? Or just an empty editor? Or at least leave the filebrowser ("Explorer") accessable so I can open another document from the directory I was working in.

Again, I love the product and it will be my main production utilety from now on but I would love it if you could change the gray screen thingy. :)

[DrHikari]

First of all, thanks for this awesome software! I loved 1st Page 2000 and I surely love what I've seen so far of 2006.

Jelmer, I believe this is easily fixed if you check the "Create New Document on startup" box on the Start Manager. :)

As Terminator1138 said, I also think the design view should be tweaked a bit. I only use source, but I do not doubt other people would find design view useful. The only glitch I've found so far at design view is the fact I can't type anything with the letter 'g', because a menu about images appears instead.

[Jelmer]

Jelmer, I believe this is easily fixed if you check the "Create New Document on startup" box on the Start Manager.
I did, but since I make money making websites I often work on multiple projects at the same time and when switching from one to the other I first close down all the documents from the project I'm done with before starting on the other and then instead of being able to open the new documents trough the file explorer I have to create a new document first. Like I said, it's not really important just a little annoyance.

[Drizzt95]

A big congrats on this release, I've been hanging out for years. Everything looks great.

The one big problem I have which prevents me from using it entirely is the problem with comments. If you have a single quote to comment the text out, it comments everything out until it reaches another single quote. While I could put a single quote at the end of every comment, I just have too many pages to go through and do this. It is just too hard to read if it is all commented out, I rely on the colour coding pretty heavily.
e.g. 'this is a comment
Everything after this also gets commented out until it reaches another '

Unfortunately I'm stuck using the old version..... bugger...

[gc0073]

Great to see the new version finally released. I spotted a few things all fairly small.

1. The ' bug. Like Drizzt95, I've had to stop using the new version for the same reason.
2. It would have been nice to see support for .net, at least allow you to open aspx, ascx, asa files without getting the unsupported file prompt.
3. FP2006 doesn't seem to remember your previous settings.
4. I don't like the way the automatic tabbing/indentation works. Would be better (for me anyway) if the tab was either just a tab or x spaces and not a combination of both based on the previous line.
5. Some other editors allow you to select multiple lines and press tab (or shift+tab) to move the selected lines right (or left). Would be nice if FP2006 did this too.

Btw. Splash screen was a problem on my Win2k (sp4) pc but worked fine on winxp (sp2).

Overall, this is one of the best freeware products I've used.

[Anemone]

Yay! First Page 2006 is back! Happy new year! :weee:

But... Where did the little tag selection bar at the bottom (http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=22722#poststop) go? The one in the beta release that allowed you to select element tags in hierarchic order, and to edit them from the context menu?

Edit:
Nevermind, for some reason it just wouldn't show up when I opened FP2k6 the first time, but after I re-opened it was fine. Go figure. :messedup:

[Hotrocket]

I have to say first of all I have been looking forward to the new version for a very long time, and I am very pleased to see some of the improvements that were made and issues addresed with this new release.
I downloaded the new version..and almost right away I noticed issues...

I too found it to be irritating that the new version didnt retain my settings and options from the previous version..it did import the MyCode file which was nice, but the biggest thing it didnt do was to keep my color coding settings for the source code view. I tried to match them to my old settings but no matter what I did some of it just did not change after I selected a new color and save my settings.

those issues were minor and I'm sure there is a solution for, but then the real issues started
I got a cpl "this program has experienced a problem and needs to close" messages..and once the entire program froze forcing me to ctrl-alt-del to get it to close.

I also had issues with any html or php files that I had coded with the old 1stpage program and then edited using the new version..for example..I have a typical php coded site with a header and footer..
I opened the header in the new version...and made a simple <a href=""></a> link change to a navigation button..thats it..uploaded it to the site..and the entire header disappeared...it was there..it was in the source..but it would not show..I poured over ever inch of the code and there was nothing I could see..even printed out the source code from the page and the same header code (unaltered backup) and there wasnt a single thing different...I ftp'd the backup code to the server..and it worked fine..made a back up of that and added in the link I made before...uploaded it and no problems.

So at that point I say it must have been something weird I did or just one of those "things" that happens sometimes. I opened another existing page in the new program..uploaded it..and same deal..the page showed but had errors..for no reason. uploade the back up..back to normal.

So I create a brand new html page in the new program to test some java script based affiliate sponsor provided ad's..( tried and tested for many months - not an issue with the ads)
uploaded it..and it worked perfectly!

It seems to me..somehow the new program is doing "something" to affect the exisiting pages code or doc type or what I can't figure out..and I'm no newbie, but since any page created from scratch with the new program works ok...something is going on.

I had no choice but to uninstall the new version and go back to the old one..it still needs some work I guess..disapointing but not unexpected really..happens to ALL new software..just part of it..but once these issues are addressed and I see some posts from admin in a thread detailing the bug fixes made, I'll give it another shot.

Running: Win XP home sp2 with all the current updates
p4 3.0 - 1gb ram

Good luck and I hope my info is of some help to you

[stoney]

OK, so below is what was noted on this site:

FYI, First Page 2006 will remain free, however there will be a professional edition available. Upgrading to the pro edition means you'll get priority support and removal of a simple nag screen. We have thought long and hard about this and we have concluded that this is the only approach to continue FP. We need to pay our starving programmers, hosting fees, maintaince fees and so forth if we can deliver you updates and quality support.

If there is enough support out there you can be assured updates and work on FP will progress MUCH MUCH faster than previously.

End of that part.

So, I decided, after using FP for many many years, to be among those paying for FP2006 to help pay the starving programmers, etc.
I made my order and waited for my license. Never came. Wrote Evrsoft several times, never heard from them. Wrote 2Checkout several times and so on.
Guess Evrsoft doesn't want my business, they will have a refund issued to me when all I wanted was the unlock code/license for the product I paid for.
I'm disappointed.
Anybody out there actually get an Unlock Code/icense so far?
What the heck is going on?

[Terminator1138]

Check out this thread ! (http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23688#post23688)

[groucho]

Those having issues with splashscreen bug, please post your windows version. Also, when you goto CodeTree can you see these tag libraries available?

CSS 2 Specs
PHP 5
HTML 4 Specs
?

Thanks

It had the items in a pick list but initially did not have anything listed below. After picking one, they all seem to be fine.

I'm running on XP professional downloaded about 3 days ago and had several crashes yesterday while editing and also experienced slowness while typing. Not sure if I should re-download and re-install. I think I have the latest but don't know for sure.

About screen shows Version 3.00. I don't see a date or build number though.

[dabbler]

yep ! (http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23688#post23688)

You mean you did actually pay for the program and get the unlock key?
I was under the impression that all this was yet future, to be implemented in the final release, not a RC.

If you have received a key, then it really is bad that some are paying good money and getting nothing. Not even a response from Evrsoft.

[Terminator1138]

You mean you did actually pay for the program and get the unlock key?
I was under the impression that all this was yet future, to be implemented in the final release, not a RC.

If you have received a key, then it really is bad that some are paying good money and getting nothing. Not even a response from Evrsoft.
me, now I own dreamweaver, but i meant yep as in someone did do the same as the above poster when he asked if anyone else had an issue with them...I will correct my post.

[dabbler]

Ah, now I understand.
Sorry for the confusion (my head is not as young as it used to be!)

[Terminator1138]

Ah, now I understand.
Sorry for the confusion (my head is not as young as it used to be!)
np there dabbler, I get that way many times.. :rolleyes:

[diamondo25]

i open 1st page 2006, the splash screen will apear, it will give a sound and will "abort" the opening and the splash screen is gone :smack:

me

[paganbabe]

if i open 1st page 2006 it will give a sound ( if the splach screen is gone) and will "abort" the opening... :smack:

me
this sounds as if you have a pop up blocking program running and it is blocking the 1st page 2006 splash screen, if you do have one (pop up blocker) go into the preferences /options of the program and 'allow ' 1st page 2006.

[diamondo25]

i havent ...

me

edit:

i have zone alarm, avg antivirus, microsoft antispyware, adaware and symantec anti virus

[groucho]

i havent ...

me

edit:

i have zone alarm, avg antivirus, microsoft antispyware, adaware and symantec anti virus

Zone Alarm would probably block it. (If this is the same as Zonelabs).

[diamondo25]

Zone Alarm would probably block it. (If this is the same as Zonelabs).
how can i make it to allow it? it is zone alarm free (or somting)

[groucho]

how can i make it to allow it? it is zone alarm free (or somting)

Again not sure if Zone Alarm is the same as ZoneLabs. But if it is the Zonelabs help file provides instructions. You can basically set it to allow popups from "trusted sites" which you can define by IP address, IP address range or domain name. Before you go through the trouble though, I would recommend you turn off any firewall software and disable the popup blocker on your browser to ensure that it works. Then enable each piece of software until it doesn't work and then configure it. That way you can verify which software is blocking it and configure it in the right place.

[SundayNiagara]

Again not sure if Zone Alarm is the same as ZoneLabs. But if it is the Zonelabs help file provides instructions. You can basically set it to allow popups from "trusted sites" which you can define by IP address, IP address range or domain name. Before you go through the trouble though, I would recommend you turn off any firewall software and disable the popup blocker on your browser to ensure that it works. Then enable each piece of software until it doesn't work and then configure it. That way you can verify which software is blocking it and configure it in the right place.

Zone Labs and Zone Alarm are one and the same.
Mark

[keema]

went to preferences, unticked splash screen

[diamondo25]

went to preferences, unticked splash screen
ummm i cant in 1st page 2006
:rolleyes:

[diamondo25]

it will still dont start.
i have evry program in ZoneAlarm(firewall, program control, anti-virus monitoring and email protection) on off settet (sorry i am dutch) but it still dont work...

me again

[Tarmithius]

Zone Alarm would not prevent the splash screen from being shown. I use Zone Alarm on two pcs and did not have an issue where ZA tried to ask me if FP2006 could access the net. Most likely the program is starting then crashing, as to why I cannot tell you.

[Gideon]

Thanks for the great new tool. Free too. :love:

[deacon]

Absolutely amazing! I last logged on here in August, 2003... I had given up hope of a new release of FP2000, and now I discover that it's finally out... hallelujah !

I've been a fan of FP2K since it's first release and have always returned to it from the many other editors I've used over the years. It had everything but reliable ftp transfer in WinXP, and I always liked the reference tab that gave me access to CSS and JS rules.

I just downloaded 2006, and am eagerly awaiting the chance to see what's new!

Doug :crazy:

[deacon]

Actually, I've looked in on this page a few times since 2003... to see any new developments... didn't log in if there was nothing new.

Doug

[diamondo25]

heeelllllllllllllooooooo
i now, 1st page 2000 is the best html-editor but 2006 is greater and wil not starting up!!! i will information how this come! cmon people say it!


me

[Galactic]

i open 1st page 2006, the splash screen will apear, it will give a sound and will "abort" the opening and the splash screen is gone :smack:

me

Here are my views. It would not be your browser. It does not have to be running to start FP2006. ZoneAlarm is to protect between your PC and the Internet. I do not see it being involved. I run ZoneAlarm personal and have not had this problem. It is fairly safe to turn ZoneAlarm off for long enough to try to open FP2006. You can also close any other open Windows like browsers first. I interpret what you are seeing as FP2006 crashes while trying to open. Many reported early on that the program hung while opening, while the Splash Screen was still displayed. Maybe your issue is similar only worse.

When it crashes, do you get an error message from Windows?

Have you described your system? How much RAM do you have? What version is your Windows?

If you have Windows XP, consider turning DEP on for all programs. There is another post or two that explains how.

On your PC you may have the bug that FP2006 takes excessive memory or resources. Check by doing the following: Open your Task Manager;: <ctrl><alt><del> is the key combination. Click on processes. Click on name column to sort alphanumeric. At or near the top, do you see any processes named 1st Page..? If FP is closed there should not be any. If FP is open, there should be one 1st Page process. If you see one and should not see it or if you see more than one, you have a newly reported problem that FP is not closing when it closes. (This happened to one of us and even though FP2006 final seemed to open and close normally. If 1st Page process is open, and the program seems to be closed, use the task manager to delete the 1st Page processes. Highlight the process and touch the delete key. That alone will probably not solve the problem though. A reboot of your PC should also clear all running processes acquired during the last PC session. That probably will not solve the problem either.

There is a procedure that is not written in the forums that in the other instance fixed the process does not close bug. If FP2006 is not closing (if it is leaving the process behind) reply and I will send you the information. But also answer the other questions. The same procedure seems to be helpful in the problems of Splash Screen Hangs and Program Crashes on Closing.

The problem of 1st Page leaving open multiple instances of processes, one for each time it has been opened and closed, has been surmised as a cause of the reported problems that FP2006 final uses too much memory or resources.

[deacon]

I got FP2006 installed, and the first thing I did was download and install the Transfer.exe file and configured my pages. Works fine in XP!

I haven't browsed all the features, yet, but I like the customizable toobars... don't remember that feature in the old version.

The Reference tab files look the same, with all the details of HTML, CSS and other coding.

Doug

[Galactic]

heeelllllllllllllooooooo
i now, 1st page 2000 is the best html-editor but 2006 is greater and wil not starting up!!! i will information how this come! cmon people say it!


me

Hello, diamondo:

Do you ask for information on how to get 1st page 2006 to open and work? Is this correct?

Please tell us:
Do you use Windows XP?
How much memory (RAM) does your computer have?

Do you know how to open Windows Task Manager? It shows what is running on PC.

Is 1st Page Process running? You have to look in Windows Task Manager to know.

Reply with answers, please. I can respond 4 hours from now.

Good luck.

[Galactic]

..
First Page 2006 FINAL is here.
..
This version has various bug fixes/feature additions...NOTE: Un-install any previous betas before installing this new version.
..
Note: The latest update was posted 12/JAN/2006 @ 1.12PM AEST.
If you downloaded a preview release, you may want to come back and download the final version. [emphasis added by Galactic] The final version include some additional tweaks and functionality.
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There were 2 releases of FP only 2 days apart: A major release on January 10, it may have been called FP PR2, and the FP final release on January 12. Admin's announcement for FP PR2 was on January 10 and started this thread. On January 12 he edited the post to turn the PR2 announcement into the announcement for FP final. Many Community members downloaded FP PR2. Some members possibly including the moderator, may have continued using PR2. The release of FP final would be easy to miss.

[SundayNiagara]

So now, is there a stable version?
Mark

[Galactic]

So now, is there a stable version?
Mark
Mark, define "stable". Are you referring to reports that FP2006 final hangs on startup with the Splash Screen Still displayed, and crashes when trying to close? There are observations that there are certain actions that can be taken that take care of this behavior. The actions are in two parts. The first part has to do with performing a clean removal and reinstall of the program. I know about a procedure that has two parts. In the first part, about 6 steps are used to achieve a clean removal of a loaded FP program. The second part has to do with some actions taken after the program is reloaded and then started the first time. It also has several steps.

One member of the community FP2006 final reported that a new copy of the FP process was left running following a program open and close. This was cumulative. After opening and closing the program a second time, two copies of the program were running so far as Windows Task Manager is Concerned, and so forth. The two parts process to clear up bugs also was helpful in solving that but there was some difficulty with it remaining. He is looking into that. The failure to close properly is surmised to relate to reports that FP2006 takes up a load of resources or memory.

Now complicating understanding the bug reports, in my view, is not knowing what version of FP was being used when the problems were reported. Some may still be using the January 10 release, I expect they are. Some are using the final release, that I think first became available on January 12. Admin mentions a modification of the January 10 release available for download from a certain directory on January 11.
For those who have the splashscreen bug, please try replacing your copy with this updated one.
http://www.evrsoft.com/fp2006-beta/1stpage.exe

Let me know if that fixed the issue or not. A few more bugs have also been patched since.

I think his phrase "been patched since" probably means patched since the version he is asking them to try. Those would be patches that hopefully made it into FP final released on January 12.

On January 12, RobFriedman in his first post made a perceptive observation:
back to the splash Screen bug..
mirror 1 had the bug mirror 3 did not.. (yes I cold go in and turn it of with the options..
but mirror 3 went to the startup manager and the splash went away on it's own

II have not used any mirrors. The only site I have used to get FP is CNET's download.com. RobFriedman's post reveals that on January 12, different sources for the FP loader had different versions of the program. This was probably during the transition from the version of January 10 to the version of January 12 with the chance that one of the mirrors had picked up the version that Admin mentioned being in one of Evrsoft's directories on January 11.

I just provided a little background to help you understand why I feel I need to ask you several questions before I may be able to help you.

Mark, these are the questions:
What stability issues have you had?
What FP program loader/installer do you have?
When and from where did you download it? What Windows version do you have?
How much RAM?
What earlier versions of FP have you used?
Were they on your PC before you loaded the present version?
What steps did you take to cleanly remove all prior versions of FP before you used the loader to install the new program?
Do you get the Splash Screen?
Does it say that FP will expire on April 30?
Have you gotten the yellow Nag Screen, the one that you have to wait 5 seconds and then click OK before you can load FP?

Your answers will help guide my response to you.

[SundayNiagara]

No thanks, I'll stick with FP2000 til you guys get all the bugs worked out of the supposed "Final."
Mark

[BillSamuel]

There are stability issues with FP 2006. You can have a powerful machine with lots of RAM (I have 2 GB), and you still may experience them. It seems to manifest itself when you've been using it for awhile. It closes with a message that it can no longer operate - I don't remember the words it uses. It seems to need to be closed fairly frequently to avoid crashes. Also save any file you are working on very frequently so you don't lose much if it crashes.

[glowlite]

I had NO problems with '06 until the nag started showing up (20-30 days?) I can't see myself paying for 3 installs of 2006 when it locks up continuously. It seems they've cut their own throat. A pro version? NOT A CHANCE! The lite version doesn't even work.

The very LEAST would be to add an auto-save since the damned thing crashes every 15 minutes.

'Nuff said, I'm going shopping! I wish I could get a copy of 2000, it seemed very dependable.

[sperron]

Wow !!
But I have some questions

1 - Is there any difference with First Page 2006 and First Page 2006 PRO in the software ?
2 - Do you have it in other language like French ?
3 - The new features will be stop after 30 days may be?
4 - Do you have a lot template in 100% CSS ?

Thanks in advance !

[hedly]

I have been using FP since September of 2001 or so. FP06 is really a nice change. I have been perusing the forums for years just keeping up on what is going one and saw that this one mentions a new version of FP06.

How does one go about checking their verions of FP?

I was not sure so I went to Help->About and it looked like I did not have the latest version. I then re-activated the splash screen and it did not look like the one found here (that said Version 3.00 | Pre Release 2. So I followed the link, downloaded and reinstalled.

The splash screen still does not say Pre Release 2 and the "about" screen offers no further information.

Any ideas?

[Terminator1138]

version 3.00 is the only version I'm aware of and its most likely the only version out there if you uninstalled all betas.

[kevmuskoka]

... hopefully we see something from him shortly.

I think we should start a thread to show him just how many people would love to pay for this magnificent product, which would I'm sure make it a worthwhile thing to continue to develop.

Kevin Plested
Warpzone Web Services
Muskoka, Ontario, Canada

[Spock]

Is there any way to lock all these out of date topics after adding a link pointing to the most up-to-date topic? It would help to concentrate discussion in a single topic instead of all over the fora.

[Terminator1138]

Well he did not respond to my PM's and posts so not sure what to say :(, and I'm a moderator !

So my I can only plead as a moderator for him to aid by cleaning up things because I need some direction so I'm not the only one doing all of this and also I don't want anyone to point a finger at me saying why I did all of this without approval.

I would love to see many of these threads combined and cleaned up but until I get more permission etc, will just let admin do it.

[Galactic]

... hopefully we see something from him shortly.

I think we should start a thread to show him just how many people would love to pay for this magnificent product, which would I'm sure make it a worthwhile thing to continue to develop.

Kevin Plested
Warpzone Web Services
Muskoka, Ontario, Canada

Kevin, way to go! You can start the thread, same forum. However, if you name it something like Admin Sited, you will get a "ton of responses". :)

Admin, welcome back. You have been greatly missed by the Community.

[diamondo25]

Hello, diamondo:

Do you ask for information on how to get 1st page 2006 to open and work? Is this correct?

Please tell us:
Do you use Windows XP?
How much memory (RAM) does your computer have?

Do you know how to open Windows Task Manager? It shows what is running on PC.

Is 1st Page Process running? You have to look in Windows Task Manager to know.

Reply with answers, please. I can respond 4 hours from now.

Good luck.
i have windows xp profesional
and my ram is 192mb
and my computer speed is 551MHz

[diamondo25]

oke, I had firstpage2006 installed in this map : E; /program files/ but in this hard disk is no windows map because I have 2 hd's therefore now stand have I him installed in c: /program files/ and now its works pervect!!

problem fixed!!!

diamondo25

[Flying Dutchman]

hoi

[DarkSloth]

Wow. I don't believe it finally came out. I had lost complete faith. I would check back every month or so just to see any changes. Even with the bugs i've been reading, its still very admirable that you were able to finish it. Congratulations, must feel amazing. Its been so long... a wild rollercoaster ride :)

[estar06]

Yes well done. Over the years 1st Page got me to understand the basics. The fact that you guys are Aussies encouraged me also. We can be as smart as the next bloke, even I feel more inclined to brag now.

estar06

[Temmu]

hi! i just responded to a 3 yr old post ~i'd~ posted, er, 3 years ago... anyway, saying how amazed/glad/shocked/overjoyed that 1st page finally (at last) came out with its new version. i must install and play. :o

[mr XHTML]

Those having issues with splashscreen bug, please post your windows version. Also, when you goto CodeTree can you see these tag libraries available?

CSS 2 Specs
PHP 5
HTML 4 Specs
?

Thanks


Just installed the ' supposedly bug fixed' edition of first page from your link in your forum.After being unhappy with the one from major geeks.
Which wouldn't start - all i got was a blank screen with a menu bars and your splash screen which seem to take fore ever whilst loading the sr engine.
Now to my astonishment this one has the same problem.

Can anyone share a light on it as im constantly banging my head against a wall :smack:

[Cary]

It's buggy and unreliable. That's pretty much all there is to it. No signs of fixes or updates coming. I'm using something else for web editing.

[Terminator1138]

You can disable splash screen once its loads in the main menu under preferences I think, but yeah its buggy

[BillSamuel]

Good to see the Forum put back after being missing for so long. But still no word from Evrsoft. When will the Pro version be available?

[jrpainter]

It's been more than 8 months now and not even a maintenance release to fix some of the bugs. e.g. Spurious freezing / locking and shutdown and spurious memory read errors causing a core dump.

VERY disappointed at spending money on a product that is quite obviously not supported.

Jon.

[Spock]

... VERY disappointed at spending money on a product that is quite obviously not supported.

Then get a refund and know better next time, no matter what the product is.

I wish I could give you more information or help but Admin is very closed mouth about everything and communicates with the forum Mods as often as he communicates with anyone else, just about never. :(

[Terminator1138]

contact 2checkout which I think handles the payment, they really do a nice job of refunds....and let them know about your thoughts behind it...hope that helps